Breaking the Slot Code

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

On a "beer Friday" back in June, Anthony stated the book should be released in August. August has no come and gone and the book is not out. 

 

That was the last official statement I heard. The store page says late 2025

 

Basically we've gone from early 2025, to mid 2025, to August 2025, to late 2025. And that's just since I've been watching.

 

 I'm speculating that this book got sideline to spend more time on the sports betting book being written. 

 

Anyway, what do you guys think the odds are that this book will be released this year? 

 

If I was to guess February 2026 for the release, who takes the under who takes the over? 

 

 

 


The last thing I heard about it from one of the weekly podcasts is that, in editing, they have realized that it's difficult to explain clearly what you need to know about some of the machines. I get it, when I started vulturing, it took some trial and error to figure out each machine. 

 

Just know that it's not just a point and shoot thing when vultering slots, after you do it a few times, you learn when you're willing to jump in and when you're not. While other folks will take the longer odds than you might and jump in earlier. 

 

 

Originally posted by: MaxFlavor

The last thing I heard about it from one of the weekly podcasts is that, in editing, they have realized that it's difficult to explain clearly what you need to know about some of the machines. I get it, when I started vulturing, it took some trial and error to figure out each machine. 

 

Just know that it's not just a point and shoot thing when vultering slots, after you do it a few times, you learn when you're willing to jump in and when you're not. While other folks will take the longer odds than you might and jump in earlier. 

 

 


The problem with vulturing is that you can't determine the EV of a play just by looking at the machine. That's because you have no way of determining the base return of the machine. You're obviously going to dump more into a machine that pays 87% than one that pays 92%, before you eventually hit the bonus or whatever incentivized you to play it.

 

Furthermore, some generally bonus-heavy machines (which is about nine-tenths of them these days) have the adjustments to the payouts as the frequency of the bonus. So you may see a machine with a juicy bonus that unbeknownst to you, is set to a very low frequency. So you pound and pound away, bleeding out your bankroll on what's a 40% return game exclusive of the bonus.

 

You MAY have a hint when the Ultimate Super Gonzo Yum-Yum Bonus is very large. That's the sum of a LOT of losses. Are YOU going to hit it? Fuck, no. But you'll be bleeding into it while you go fishing for the smaller bonus that supposedly made this a positive play.

 

Bottom line: you need a huge bankroll and a lot of luck to succeed. It's not like playing video poker progressives, where you can see the payback percentage AND you can calculate the coin-in that it should take to hit the jackpot. On a slot machine, you're totally in the dark about both factors.

Is "the Staff" expected to weigh in on these "Questions to the Staff" posts?  Geez, even this Forum has been defiled.

Originally posted by: O2bnVegas

Is "the Staff" expected to weigh in on these "Questions to the Staff" posts?  Geez, even this Forum has been defiled.


How? All I see is a mildly acerbic discussion on slot vulturing and the upcoming book about it.


Generally I would expect a "presale" to not take this long.

 

When a book is available for purchase a few weeks or couple months before release that's a presale. When it is a year in advance that's not a presale, it is a crowd funding campaign. Which is fine. But be honest with the labeling. Calling it a presale is deceitful. When people see a presale they expect that the book is basically complete and is about to be sent to the printers. They don't expect it to be a year out. 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

Generally I would expect a "presale" to not take this long.

 

When a book is available for purchase a few weeks or couple months before release that's a presale. When it is a year in advance that's not a presale, it is a crowd funding campaign. Which is fine. But be honest with the labeling. Calling it a presale is deceitful. When people see a presale they expect that the book is basically complete and is about to be sent to the printers. They don't expect it to be a year out. 


 Presale (from Google) -- Key characteristics of presale products: Pre-purchase: Customers pay for the item ahead of its widespread release. Anticipated availability: The product is not yet available for immediate shipment or delivery. Limited sales window: Presales are often for a specific period, giving customers a chance to buy within that timeframe. Benefits for sellers: Validates demand: Provides insight into how much interest there is in the product. Reduces inventory risk: Brands can order production quantities based on presale demand, minimizing overstock. Boosts cash flow: Funds are collected in advance, helping with production and operational costs. Creates buzz: Builds anticipation and excitement for the product's launch. Benefits for customers: Guaranteed access: Allows customers to reserve the product before it sells out. Exclusive offers: Sometimes includes incentives like discounts or early access for early buyers. Early adopter status: Customers get the item before others.

Originally posted by: David Miller

 Presale (from Google) -- Key characteristics of presale products: Pre-purchase: Customers pay for the item ahead of its widespread release........................


I'm not sure what point you are trying to make by copy and pasting an AI generated response. You put a term into an LLM and it regurgitated a response. But I honestly have no idea what your point is. 

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make by copy and pasting an AI generated response. You put a term into an LLM and it regurgitated a response. But I honestly have no idea what your point is. 


His "point" was to be a $&$@# by implying that you don't know what "presale" means. Obviously, you do. You were remarking that the original presale implied that the book would be available--for sale--soon. Which it wasn't.

 

100% of Miller's posts are copied and pasted AI, rando Facebook links, personal attacks, personal insults, or some combination thereof. His post here was gratuitous and stupid.

 

That's how he rolls.

Originally posted by: LiveFreeNW

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make by copy and pasting an AI generated response. You put a term into an LLM and it regurgitated a response. But I honestly have no idea what your point is. 


   My point is simple - vendors do "presales" to (1) generate funding, (2) gauge demand, (3) create interest. By the way, my remark was/is not AI - it is the answer found on Google when asked "defind presale". If you are still confused, ask someone who's knowledge you respect to explain what my post said.

Originally posted by: David Miller

   My point is simple - vendors do "presales" to (1) generate funding, (2) gauge demand, (3) create interest. By the way, my remark was/is not AI - it is the answer found on Google when asked "defind presale". If you are still confused, ask someone who's knowledge you respect to explain what my post said.


Someone "who's" knowledge you respect? Be sure to ax somebuddy whoo can spel!

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