PIT - LAS Southwest Flight

Originally posted by: OMB13

Robbie.....

 

From my experience the first week of the new seating rules, there aren't near that many seats available overall. Flyers with a low tier Swest credit card can pick their seat 48 hours in advance (and there are lots of those folks) and flyers with an upper end CC can pick their seat at any point before departure. That leaves all the others that will have their seat chosen for them by SW about an hour before departure (I believe it's an hour). And, the closer to departure time, the folks in the "all the others" category feel the pressure to buy a seat that's still available.

Definitely confusing.

 

The CEO is an idiot IMO for screwing up what set SWest apart from other airlines. But, I better get off my soapbox on that subject.

 

ND


Thanks for taking the time to 'splain that for me ND.  I have not flown SW since they decided to go with the new rules.  Thinking about what I thought were vacant seats actually going to have some behinds in them makes the ticket price that they are asking now, a week out, make sense.  If the plane were going to be that empty, the price would have fallen...I think. 

 

Thanks again!

 

Rob

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Originally posted by: Robbie

Personally, I think that if The Mob still ran Las Vegas, every seat would be filled...


It's weird how some still bless organized crime with a romanticized and unearned positive image.

 

Hitler, Noriega, Capone, Putin, El Chapo, Pinochet, Davis, Marcos, a long list have benefitted from it.

 

Nothing about Las Vegas would be better if it was still dominated by organized crime.

 

Nothing.

Originally posted by: Dan Svatass

It's weird how some still bless organized crime with a romanticized and unearned positive image.

 

Hitler, Noriega, Capone, Putin, El Chapo, Pinochet, Davis, Marcos, a long list have benefitted from it.

 

Nothing about Las Vegas would be better if it was still dominated by organized crime.

 

Nothing.


Yeah, and there's some guy named "Dump" or something like that who has made billions from it. I think his girlfriend is named "Piggy." But I digress.

 

There were a few positive aspects to "mob Vegas." For one thing, they weren't really all that concerned with making a profit per se. So they were lavish with comps, food and rooms were practically free, and you could see an elaborate show for the price of a movie back home. The bean counters who took over wanted every department to show a profit. The mob bosses understood that the money they gave away with all the cheap amenities would be more than recouped at the machines and tables.


Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

There were a few positive aspects to "mob Vegas." For one thing, they weren't really all that concerned with making a profit per se.

Absolutely 100% false.

 

Absurd.

 

"Profit per se." Laughable.

 

Murdering, raping, sex-trafficking, drug-dealing, tax-cheating, money-extorting, loan-sharking crooks and frauds working in syndicate, all to make MONEY.

Originally posted by: Dan Svatass

Absolutely 100% false.

 

Absurd.

 

"Profit per se." Laughable.

 

Murdering, raping, sex-trafficking, drug-dealing, tax-cheating, money-extorting, loan-sharking crooks and frauds working in syndicate, all to make MONEY.


Which is precisely why I used the modifying term "per se," which I guess is unfamiliar to you.

 

They didn't operate the casinos as for-profit businesses. The casinos were essentially "fronts." They were primarily money laundries, and their location in wide-open Nevada meant that people who wouldn't have been able to work elsewhere could work in Vegas unmolested. Law enforcement was of course easy to buy. It was a dream environment for a criminal organization.

 

Making money from the hotel/casinos themselves was a strictly tertiary consideration. They did try to run them so that they broke even, as in, they could siphon off goodly sums of cash and still keep the joints afloat.

 

I'm well aware of the Mob's overall criminality. The casinos were useful tools in that. But their illegal businesses were much more profitable overall than their casinos could ever be. Think of the casinos as Los Pollos Hermanos.

Originally posted by: Kevin Lewis

There were a few positive aspects to "mob Vegas." For one thing, they weren't really all that concerned with making a profit per se. 


Nope.

 

Wrong.

 

The Vegas mob was all about making a profit.

 

Not a profit "per se", a term added to make your point seem extra smart and flowery and intriguing and mysterious.

 

EVERYTHING the abhorent Vegas mob did in Vegas was because it was concerned with making a PROFIT.

 

Full stop.

Mic drop.

Grab the keys, we're done.

Originally posted by: Dan Svatass

Nope.

 

Wrong.

 

The Vegas mob was all about making a profit.

 

Not a profit "per se", a term added to make your point seem extra smart and flowery and intriguing and mysterious.

 

EVERYTHING the abhorent Vegas mob did in Vegas was because it was concerned with making a PROFIT.

 

Full stop.

Mic drop.

Grab the keys, we're done.


OK, Dan, you're absolutely right about everything you've said, you say, or you ever will say. 

 

That seems to be important to you. I'm happy to help with whatever trauma makes you crave approval. I'm nothing if not compassionate.

 

The difference between operating the casinos at a profit and operating their overall crime operations at a profit isn't beyond your comprehension. You have my permission to keep on pretending that it is.

Thank you.

Just got back from Palm Springs on my first SW flight since assigned seating.   If you have the credit card you can upgrade to a "plus" seat with more leg room if any are available 48 hours prior to departure.    Free. 

kinda nice.    I got window seats in the first 4 rows out and back.    I like the new policy.

 

ive been on plenty of full flights post the mob era in Vegas.   I suspect the drop off in visitation has more to do with the $20 bottles of water vs the mgmt composition.     Although, the mob never charged that much for water.

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