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IndyBoilerman

Feb 11, 2017
12:38am

Liberal judges ignoring law is Billy. I like it.

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Originally posted by: lvfritz
Two eight letter words here start with b......billryan and bullshit. My observation would be that these two words can be used interchangeably. That is for me, I can equate bullshit with billryan.

billryan

Feb 11, 2017
2:50am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
According to the American Bar Assoc for the same period, the 9th circuit had an 80% rate on cases argued before the SC. That is the 2nd highest rate. Once again cliff's numbers are wrong.

The difference is subtle, but important. 61% of the cases were reversed.
The ABA numbers include cases where the decision was vacated and sent back. There is a difference between the two.

My only question is -Do we have a bet, yes or no?

billryan

Feb 11, 2017
2:56am

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

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Originally posted by: billryan
The 9th Circuits decisions stand 99.85 of the time.
The 9th Circuit is overturned 80% of the time.

One statement is a fact. One is bullshit.
Even the biggest moron should be able to pick out which is which.

Poor old DonDiego already addressed this:

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
The 9th Circuit also has the second lowest percentage of cases affirmed on appeal at only 20%. Only the Federal Circuit in DC is worse.
Ref: Supreme Court Reversal Rates

The difference, . . . DonDiego included a reference* with data for the 10 years from 1999 to 2008. Table 3 is the most succinct summary demonstrating the difference among the Circuit Courts.
[If he'd've found more recent data he'd've included it; perhaps the interested reader, if any, could do further research.]

The factual statement is the 9th Circuit had 20% of its decisions Affirmed by the Supreme Court and 80% of its decisions Reversed/Vacated.

*Including a reference is an excellent way to either i. not post "bullshit" or ii. post "bullshit", but be able to blame someone else. DonDiego recommends the practice.

Oh, the irony. Did donde bother to read the article he wrote. I particularly liked it when the author of his article used the same phrase that came to mind. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. The article clears up the myth of the 9th but I guess Bondi was too busy scavenging for roadkill or whatever to read it. I realise the article has far too many words for the rest of you.

billryan

Feb 11, 2017
3:50am

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From the article Diondi sourced...

Due to various factors, such as size and subject matter jurisdiction, the number of appeals terminated by each court of appeals varies greatly. For instance, as shown in Table 1, in Fiscal Year 2008 the Federal Circuit terminated 1,745 cases, while the Ninth Circuit terminated 12,373; in 10 years, the Federal Circuit terminated a total of 15,781 cases and the Ninth Circuit terminated 114,199 cases. As shown in Table 2, the Supreme Court, in the past 10 Terms, has decided only 30 cases appealed from the Federal Circuit and 175 cases from the Ninth Circuit.4 Thus, the Supreme Court only reviewed 0.177% of the total number of appeals terminated by the Federal Circuit and only 0.151% of the total number of appeals terminated by the Ninth Circuit. Figure 15 (top of page 10) compares the Supreme Court’s rate of review6 for each of the courts of appeals over the last 10 years. The highest rate of review is for the District of Columbia, a mere 0.235%. The number of cases that the Supreme Court reversed as compared to the total number of appeals terminated presents an even lower percentage. Any reversal rate below 1% can hardly be considered high. So how did the Ninth Circuit get the reputation for being the “rogue circuit”? Well, “figures don’t lie, but liars figure.”

Don

Feb 11, 2017
6:51am

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Originally posted by: billryan

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: billryan
The 9th Circuits decisions stand 99.85 of the time.
The 9th Circuit is overturned 80% of the time.

One statement is a fact. One is bullshit.
Even the biggest moron should be able to pick out which is which.

Poor old DonDiego already addressed this:
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
The 9th Circuit also has the second lowest percentage of cases affirmed on appeal at only 20%. Only the Federal Circuit in DC is worse.
Ref: Supreme Court Reversal Rates

Oh, the irony. Did donde bother to read the article he wrote. I particularly liked it when the author of his article used the same phrase that came to mind. Figures don't lie, but liars figure. The article clears up the myth of the 9th but I guess Bondi was too busy scavenging for roadkill or whatever to read it. I realise the article has far too many words for the rest of you.

Yes, . . . he read the article, . . . but quickly, because it was too hard. And it did have a lot of words.

Did billryan do the math.
175 cases from the 9th Circuit reviewed by the Supreme Court.
35 cases affirmed.

Umm, . . . 35 divided by 175, . . . equals, umm, . . . ahhh , . . . [Uh oh ! Math is hard], . . . oh, wait ! 20%.

BobOrme

Feb 11, 2017
9:30am

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The ONLY thing the judge and the 9th circuit should have ruled on is whether or not Trump has the authority to impose the temporary travel bans. They did not. He does, granted by the constitution and congress. The district judge (shopped by those filing suit to make sure it would end up in the 9th circuit's lap) didn't even meet the criteria necessary to issue a temporary restraining order. This is all about politics, not the law. It is just another example of the left fighting EVERYTHING Trump does. They have made it very clear they will continue to do so every day he is in office.

Toomany10pins

Feb 11, 2017
10:36am

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What's your issue Bob???

The other side is now doing what you and your political party did for 8 years.
You didn't have a problem with it then, but you do now??? Hypocrisy at its finest!

Time for your side to play defense and the other side to play offense.

Toomany10pins

Feb 11, 2017
10:41am

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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
Liberal judges ignoring law is Billy. I like it.

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Originally posted by: lvfritz
Two eight letter words here start with b......billryan and bullshit. My observation would be that these two words can be used interchangeably. That is for me, I can equate bullshit with billryan.

More alternative facts???? (See lies)
2 of the 4 judges that touched this case were appointed by your republican hero's, which I doubt are liberal.
You may want to stay off the Breitbart.com and Alex Jones websites for awhile.

JM2300

Feb 11, 2017
10:49am

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DonDiego is: donde, Diondi, or Bondi???????????

IndyBoilerman

Feb 11, 2017
10:55am

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Only Liberal judges ignore law in preference of what they believe how the law should read.

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Originally posted by: Toomany10pins

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Originally posted by: IndyBoilerman
Liberal judges ignoring law is Billy. I like it.

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Originally posted by: lvfritz
Two eight letter words here start with b......billryan and bullshit. My observation would be that these two words can be used interchangeably. That is for me, I can equate bullshit with billryan.

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