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Don
Don
Sep 15, 2015
9:26am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
If there weren't standards for verifying identities, income levels, and qualifications then the exchanges would be rampant with fraud,.....and then Don Diego would start a thread decrying that aspect...

Exactly so. And as the most important quote in DonDiego's original post stated:
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
"Last year, 'we had the authority to provide consumers more flexibility — we were not taking action on the strict timeline,' said Ben Wakana, a spokesman for the Department of Health and Human Services. 'In 2015, we moved to the timeline of about three months, so consumers need to act quickly to submit supporting documentation.' "

So last year at least 423K insured persons were, in fact, not eligible and were insured and likely received subsidies anyway. So, DonDiego was accurate in decrying fraud last year. And he would not be surprised if there's some fraud this year too.

But, then again as Hillary used to say: "It's for the children" or wait, . . . was it "What difference does it make?"?.
pjstroh
pjstroh
Sep 15, 2015
10:49am
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Originally posted by: DonDiego

So last year at least 423K insured persons were, in fact, not eligible and were insured and likely received subsidies anyway. So, DonDiego was accurate in decrying fraud last year. And he would not be surprised if there's some fraud this year too.


Or they just didn't supply the required documents. We don't know, do we?

In any event, the system is weeding out fraud...which I presume DOn Diego believes is a good thing? So then whats the point of this thread?
forkushV
forkushV
Sep 15, 2015
11:24am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: DonDiego

So last year at least 423K insured persons were, in fact, not eligible and were insured and likely received subsidies anyway. So, DonDiego was accurate in decrying fraud last year. And he would not be surprised if there's some fraud this year too.


Or they just didn't supply the required documents. We don't know, do we?

In any event, the system is weeding out fraud...which I presume DOn Diego believes is a good thing? So then whats the point of this thread?
The point it doesn't look like DonDiego's predictions about huuuuuuge rate increases are coming true. So far the bump for 2016 is about 4.4%. And the rate increase, I mean decrease, from 2014-2015 was -0.4%.

That's okay DonDiego. There's always the year after next year.



Boilerman
Boilerman
Sep 15, 2015
9:05pm
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Forkie, do you recall my friend Nick? You know, the guys you accused of lying about his insurance costs, while it turned out that you had your story ass backwards.

He was required to pay a massive cost increase for his Silver plan since he wished to "keep his doctor". Silver plans with a new doctor appear to be cheaper. Have the plans that you show include plans where participants have been able to keep their doctors?

As some of you know, President Obama promised, as one of the most important cornerstones of Obamacare, that we would keep our doctors AND save tons of money. I would like to know if Forkies's example comes as promised. I suspect not.

Please clarify.



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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: DonDiego

So last year at least 423K insured persons were, in fact, not eligible and were insured and likely received subsidies anyway. So, DonDiego was accurate in decrying fraud last year. And he would not be surprised if there's some fraud this year too.


Or they just didn't supply the required documents. We don't know, do we?

In any event, the system is weeding out fraud...which I presume DOn Diego believes is a good thing? So then whats the point of this thread?
The point it doesn't look like DonDiego's predictions about huuuuuuge rate increases are coming true. So far the bump for 2016 is about 4.4%. And the rate increase, I mean decrease, from 2014-2015 was -0.4%.

That's okay DonDiego. There's always the year after next year.




Boilerman
Boilerman
Sep 15, 2015
9:24pm
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"What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?" The objective was to get these folks insured, and these folks are not insured.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: DonDiego

So last year at least 423K insured persons were, in fact, not eligible and were insured and likely received subsidies anyway. So, DonDiego was accurate in decrying fraud last year. And he would not be surprised if there's some fraud this year too.


Or they just didn't supply the required documents. We don't know, do we?

In any event, the system is weeding out fraud...which I presume DOn Diego believes is a good thing? So then whats the point of this thread?


jatki
jatki
Sep 16, 2015
10:04am
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
If there weren't standards for verifying identities, income levels, and qualifications then the exchanges would be rampant with fraud,.....and then Don Diego would start a thread decrying that aspect...and then Boilerman would make up something about Hillary Clinton and ask me if I care about it.



Kinda like verifying identity's at the polls? Or is that different?

I know, yada yada yada, you'll say it is different because ....whatever.


Sorry, completely digressed from the OT.
Don
Don
Sep 17, 2015
12:23pm
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For the record:
__You couldn't.
__It wasn't.
__He didn't.
__It does.
chefantwon
chefantwon
Sep 18, 2015
10:54am
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Originally posted by: DonDiego


For the record:
__You couldn't.
__It wasn't.
__He didn't.
__It does.


I thought when a politician says those two words (trust me) its a signal that everything they say from that point on is a lie. (goes for both parties)
chafraho
chafraho
Sep 18, 2015
11:01am
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"You're wrong, DD. I'm right. Lets see you dig up some crap to prove I'm wrong. You can't, because anything you dig up is just crap, and I can dig up some other crap, and I can insult anyone that doesn't believe it, so you're crap is worthless. That proves I'm right."

Isn't that how this thread is supposed to go from here?????
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