7 setbacks for the middle class

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Using govt agencies to suppress free speech is likely unconstitutional & smacks of totalitarianism.

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Below is her testimony about being audited.

"But when I helped found and led True the Vote and King Street Patriots, I found myself a target of this federal government," she said. "Shortly after filing IRS forms to establish 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, an assortment of federal entities including law enforcement agencies and a Congressman from Maryland, Elijah Cummings came knocking at my door. In nearly two decades of running our small business, my husband and I never dealt with any government agency, outside of filing our annual tax returns. We had never been audited, we had never been investigated, but all that changed upon submitting applications for the non profit statuses of True the Vote and King Street Patriots. Since that filing in 2010, my private businesses, my nonprofit organizations, and family have been subjected to more than 15 instances of audit or inquiry by federal agencies."
Engelbrecht was audited by the IRS, ATF and received multiple visits by OSHA and ATF.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Below is her testimony about being audited.

"But when I helped found and led True the Vote and King Street Patriots, I found myself a target of this federal government," she said. "Shortly after filing IRS forms to establish 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, an assortment of federal entities including law enforcement agencies and a Congressman from Maryland, Elijah Cummings came knocking at my door. In nearly two decades of running our small business, my husband and I never dealt with any government agency, outside of filing our annual tax returns. We had never been audited, we had never been investigated, but all that changed upon submitting applications for the non profit statuses of True the Vote and King Street Patriots. Since that filing in 2010, my private businesses, my nonprofit organizations, and family have been subjected to more than 15 instances of audit or inquiry by federal agencies."
Engelbrecht was audited by the IRS, ATF and received multiple visits by OSHA and ATF.

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Slam dunk...except liberal 501c groups experienced the same audit....

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Below is her testimony about being audited.

"But when I helped found and led True the Vote and King Street Patriots, I found myself a target of this federal government," she said. "Shortly after filing IRS forms to establish 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, an assortment of federal entities including law enforcement agencies and a Congressman from Maryland, Elijah Cummings came knocking at my door. In nearly two decades of running our small business, my husband and I never dealt with any government agency, outside of filing our annual tax returns. We had never been audited, we had never been investigated, but all that changed upon submitting applications for the non profit statuses of True the Vote and King Street Patriots. Since that filing in 2010, my private businesses, my nonprofit organizations, and family have been subjected to more than 15 instances of audit or inquiry by federal agencies."
Engelbrecht was audited by the IRS, ATF and received multiple visits by OSHA and ATF.

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Slam dunk...except liberal 501c groups experienced the same audit....

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Really? Liberal 501C's had multiple IRS, ATF and OSHA Audits and multiple FBI visits? Prove it.

My gut feeling is this is a special case and not typical of the treatment of Conservative or Liberal 501Cs. I think what her group does has pissed off Elijah Cummings and he personally targeted Ms. Engelbrecht's organizations and used his power as a congressman to initiate these investigations.

That's different than the IRS and the other agencies working together to gin up harassment based on their own political motivation. It's the difference between you siccing the police on the neighbor you hate (Maybe even righteously) vs the police doing it based on their own motivation. The key question I've not heard answered would be to ask all the folks involved in these 15 audits or inquiries "What prompted your audit or inquiry"? I suspect there's more here than meets the eye....and I'm not talkin' about a high level government conspiracy.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Below is her testimony about being audited.

"But when I helped found and led True the Vote and King Street Patriots, I found myself a target of this federal government," she said. "Shortly after filing IRS forms to establish 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) tax exempt organizations, an assortment of federal entities including law enforcement agencies and a Congressman from Maryland, Elijah Cummings came knocking at my door. In nearly two decades of running our small business, my husband and I never dealt with any government agency, outside of filing our annual tax returns. We had never been audited, we had never been investigated, but all that changed upon submitting applications for the non profit statuses of True the Vote and King Street Patriots. Since that filing in 2010, my private businesses, my nonprofit organizations, and family have been subjected to more than 15 instances of audit or inquiry by federal agencies."
Engelbrecht was audited by the IRS, ATF and received multiple visits by OSHA and ATF.

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Slam dunk...except liberal 501c groups experienced the same audit....

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Really? Liberal 501C's had multiple IRS, ATF and OSHA Audits and multiple FBI visits? Prove it.

My gut feeling is this is a special case and not typical of the treatment of Conservative or Liberal 501Cs. I think what her group does has pissed off Elijah Cummings and he personally targeted Ms. Engelbrecht's organizations and used his power as a congressman to initiate these investigations.

That's different than the IRS and the other agencies working together to gin up harassment based on their own political motivation. It's the difference between you siccing the police on the neighbor you hate (Maybe even righteously) vs the police doing it based on their own motivation. The key question I've not heard answered would be to ask all the folks involved in these 15 audits or inquiries "What prompted your audit or inquiry"? I suspect there's more here than meets the eye....and I'm not talkin' about a high level government conspiracy.

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Really...and its been posted here a million times including in Forkush's links above. And the ONLY 501c groups that were ultimately denied the tax exempt status after the audits were liberal ones.
Liberal group denied 501c status

So since Hoops cant explain why the president ordered the IRS to go after liberal benefactor 501c groups, then perhaps you can Alan. Maybe you can be the first person on this board to show how the president or someone from his administration ordered the IRS to go after political opponents...or his liberal allies. I'm on pins and needles.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
blah, blah, blah....'Understand alanleroy. Playing Dumb or Just Dumb"???

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Catherine Engelbrecht testified at a House hearing that since setting up her conservative non-profit group her 20 year old business had been audited 15 times by various govt agencies. The total number of federal audits prior to setting up the non-profit - ZERO

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Ms. Engelbrecht did not testify that her business has ever been audited by 15 times, let alone since she started her voter-suppression groups in 2010.

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