Vegas Free-for-All - 90+ killed in Norway

90+ killed in Norway

arshaleign

Jul 25, 2011
2:02pm

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Originally posted by: esteskefauver

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Originally posted by: arshaleign
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Originally posted by: esteskefauver
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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler
Mark my words, it's only a matter of time before someone here in the U.S. from the ultra-right wing lunatic fringe with a blind hatred of immigrants tries to copycat this guy.

I hope and pray you are wrong. If it does happen it is certain that the number killed will be only a fraction of the number of U.S. citizens killed by illegal immigrants...
Let me make a guess about you estes. You hate data, and will provide none to back up that ridiculous assertion.

Yes, I like data very much. Here is some for you from Heather MacDonald who has done research for the LA Times on illegal immigration. The data is from her testimony on Capitol Hill. You want hundreds of individual examples of people killed in the US by illegal aliens. I've got those too. The list is far from comprehensive, but when you add in the all the illegal alien gang members and drug smugglers it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that illegal immigrants have killed thousands of US citizens. Maybe you missed the recent major meth bust in Las Vegas where 10 of the 14 smuglers were illegal aliens. I'm sure they wouldn't kill you if you interfered with their operation. Or maybe you missed the 2 illegal aliens a few years ago that killed a guy with a pipe bomb in the Luxor parking lot. Happy reading you data loving computer forensic expert!

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald04-13-05.htm

Well what do you know. You claim to love data, but failed to post any. And your first link is an organization funded by the Koch Brothers! Now there's a reliable source!

Just what I expected.

Dan Svatass

Jul 25, 2011
2:41pm

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I think what we're learning here is that, while estes won't explicitly state that he approves of the murders in Norway, he understands.

alexlifeson

Jul 25, 2011
5:51pm

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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler
Mark my words, it's only a matter of time before someone here in the U.S. from the ultra-right wing lunatic fringe with a blind hatred of immigrants tries to copycat this guy.

Will you be celebrating and saying "I told you so" if that happens? Of course, if it isn't a "ultra-right wing lunatic fringe" white person who commits this type of hanus act then you will probably find a way to defend it. Liberal stereotyping only applies to conservative white people.

alexlifeson

Jul 25, 2011
5:56pm

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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler

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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler
Mark my words, it's only a matter of time before someone here in the U.S. from the ultra-right wing lunatic fringe with a blind hatred of immigrants tries to copycat this guy.

Already happened, Oklahoma City. Remember?

Your point is well taken, Chef, except that the blind hatred there was directed at the U.S. government, not against immigrants, although I'm sure that McVeigh and Nicholls had no lost love for immigrants as well.

Your first statement is accurate but then your sterotyping of white people appears again. Even though you never use the word "white", your meaning is perfectly clear. Those guys must hate immigrants because they are white and all conservative white people hate immigrants. Well done!

mrmarcus12LVA

Jul 25, 2011
9:39pm

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The book Harvest of Rage by Joel Dyer does a good job of discussing the issues with T. McVeigh, for those who want to LEARN about that.

INdianapaddler

Jul 26, 2011
3:33am

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Originally posted by: alexlifeson

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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler
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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler
Mark my words, it's only a matter of time before someone here in the U.S. from the ultra-right wing lunatic fringe with a blind hatred of immigrants tries to copycat this guy.

Already happened, Oklahoma City. Remember?

Your point is well taken, Chef, except that the blind hatred there was directed at the U.S. government, not against immigrants, although I'm sure that McVeigh and Nicholls had no lost love for immigrants as well.

"ultra-right wing lunatic fringe" is different from ordinary conservative white people. I am well aware that mainstream conservative white people are incapable of this type of savagery and, to answer another poster, I DO NOT condone illegal immigration.

But, hey, don't let me stop you from putting words in my mouth. You LOVE to build a strawman and then tear him down. If that's how you get your jollies, more power to you!

mrmarcus12LVA

Jul 26, 2011
4:35am

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

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Originally posted by: pearlguy
A bomb in Oslo, then shoot 80+ at a youth camp. It's time to cull the herd. Just shoot the bastard and get it over with. Enough !!

This situation definitely calls for more shooting. More shooting improves everything.

He should be swiftly tried and swiftly executed, for treason. This will provide the families of his victims with some sort of closure that they would not get from a long prison term. His impending death will also provide him with an opportunity for a self-reckoning that he might not otherwise experience.

Number51

Jul 26, 2011
6:39am

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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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A bomb in Oslo, then shoot 80+ at a youth camp. It's time to cull the herd. Just shoot the bastard and get it over with. Enough !!
This situation definitely calls for more shooting. More shooting improves everything.

If you want to help the grieving Norwegian family's you might want to consider how they feel about capital punishment. Not every country on earth is as bloodthirsty as some Americans.

A small sample of how some Norwegians feel.

"Regarding Anders Behring Breivik, he will be dealt with according to Norwegian law, and except from his own marginalised political fraction, I do not think anyone would like to see capital punishment introduced in Norway, not even among those closest to his victims."

Seems this guys does not want to stoop to the level of the marginalized right wing mad man. Good for him.

Some Americans are pissed off about the Norwegian laws, Norwegians seem to like freedom and tolerance. Heathens.

snidely333

Jul 26, 2011
7:52am

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Originally posted by: Number51

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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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A bomb in Oslo, then shoot 80+ at a youth camp. It's time to cull the herd. Just shoot the bastard and get it over with. Enough !!
This situation definitely calls for more shooting. More shooting improves everything.

He should be swiftly tried and swiftly executed, for treason. This will provide the families of his victims with some sort of closure that they would not get from a long prison term. His impending death will also provide him with an opportunity for a self-reckoning that he might not otherwise experience.

Marcus can speak for all the Norwegians. He knows what they want.

mrmarcus12LVA

Jul 26, 2011
9:50am

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Their wounds will not heal while he lives on to remind them. Their suffering will continue as long as he does. THIS IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF WHAT HE CHOSE TO DO: IMPOSE SUFFERING, IMPOSE FEAR, IMPOSE HORROR.

Closing the wound is humane, not barbaric. If your kin were murdered before your eyes, you would understand.

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