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snidely333
snidely333
Jul 27, 2011
5:56am
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The Norwegians can punish the murderer as they see fit.
arshaleign
arshaleign
Jul 28, 2011
7:15am
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Originally posted by: INdianapaddler
Mark my words, it's only a matter of time before someone here in the U.S. from the ultra-right wing lunatic fringe with a blind hatred of immigrants tries to copycat this guy.


I hope and pray you are wrong. If it does happen it is certain that the number killed will be only a fraction of the number of U.S. citizens killed by illegal immigrants...
Let me make a guess about you estes. You hate data, and will provide none to back up that ridiculous assertion.


Yes, I like data very much. Here is some for you from Heather MacDonald who has done research for the LA Times on illegal immigration. The data is from her testimony on Capitol Hill. You want hundreds of individual examples of people killed in the US by illegal aliens. I've got those too. The list is far from comprehensive, but when you add in the all the illegal alien gang members and drug smugglers it's obvious to anyone with half a brain that illegal immigrants have killed thousands of US citizens. Maybe you missed the recent major meth bust in Las Vegas where 10 of the 14 smuglers were illegal aliens. I'm sure they wouldn't kill you if you interfered with their operation. Or maybe you missed the 2 illegal aliens a few years ago that killed a guy with a pipe bomb in the Luxor parking lot. Happy reading you data loving computer forensic expert!

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mac_donald04-13-05.htm
Well what do you know. You claim to love data, but failed to post any. And your first link is an organization funded by the Koch Brothers! Now there's a reliable source!

Just what I expected.


You need to get out your dictionary and acquire an understanding of what data is. I posted 2 different lists with a few hundreds incidents where an illegal alien killed a U.S. citizen. That's data no matter how you look at it.
Um no, those are anecdotes. And dishonest anecdotes at that, because several of the victims listed on that "memorial" page are still very alive. Brings a whole new meaning to "killed," doesn't it?

And some of those crimes were committed ten years ago, meaning that on average every year, TENS of people are killed or sorta but not really killed by the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants. According to your "data," that's an unbelievably low crime rate for illegals, wouldn't you agree?

Of course that memorial website proves nothing whatsoever, except that some people will disingenously cite anecdotes as a scare tactic. Too bad, estes, that you are susceptible to such things. It must be sad to live in such fear.
mrmarcus12LVA
mrmarcus12LVA
Jul 28, 2011
9:46pm
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Originally posted by: Number51 This is fifth grade stuff, please pay attention... These are the values I was talking about... "values, Sociology . the ideals, customs, institutions, etc., of a society toward which the people of the group have an affective regard.
That is a DISHONEST, idealistic, mystical use of the word "value." The custom or institution of trial by jury, for example, has no value. Nor does respect for that custom or institution. The RESULTS of a trial by jury may be EXTREMELY valuable, but the custom or institution, by itself, is not.

Mystical, unproductive, worthless philosophy by which words and ideas are given independent existence and importance. The religion of sociology defines...

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot And so the way to show how much we disapprove of this asshole's deed is for us to do it too. That'll teach 'em!
No, it's your logic that's NON-EXISTENT. What you are saying is the same as saying "It's wrong to put your foot on the brake when you're trying to stop, because it's wrong to put your foot on the brake when you're trying to go."

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Originally posted by: snidely333
The Norwegians can punish the murderer as they see fit.
Or not. They CAN also give him three hots and a cot for the rest of his destructive, pointless existence, and force the bereaved to pay for it all. My previous comments were not directed toward what they CAN do.



Number51
Number51
Jul 29, 2011
3:41am
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mrmarcus12LVA you are a strange angry little dude.


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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA

That is a DISHONEST, idealistic, mystical use of the word "value."


No it isn't. It's just a definition. Take it up with the liberal biased dictionary.



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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA
They CAN also give him three hots and a cot for the rest of his destructive, pointless existence, and force the bereaved to pay for it all.


You're not getting this part. It is Norway, their country, their tragedy, their laws. The Norwegians are handling this the way they want to. No one is "forcing the bereaved" to do anything. It is ignorant arrogance to think America knows what's best for them because the silly Europeans are not as awesome as we are.


Freaked out right wing religious fundamentalists are a real problem. Norway will try to handle this as best they can taking into account their laws as well as their morals and values. It might not be the way America would handle it, but in free countries like America and Norway, we can respectfully disagree, while saying a prayer for the grieving families.


In other words "lighten up Francis".





mrmarcus12LVA
mrmarcus12LVA
Jul 29, 2011
7:55am
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Originally posted by: Number51
mrmarcus12LVA you are a strange angry little dude.

In other words "lighten up Francis".
Not all of us have armed ourselves with mystical, dishonest philosophies that allow us to remain indifferent when some asshole with an assault rifle opens fire on children.

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