American Ebola patient flew a Frontier Airlines flight only two days ago

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"And maybe thats why the CEO of starbucks doesn't have a background in growing coffee beans"

Howard Schultz the CEO of Starbucks has been working in the coffee industry for over 35 years


Did he start out running a coffee plantation? No. OMG! He must be an awful CEO of a coffee company. And I'm sure the stock chart would back that up.

And the Ebola Czar never took replaced a bed pan in a hospital. I cant imagine how he can possible be effective without that vital experience.

Bed Pans? WTF are you talking about? I'd prefer a recognized international expert in infectious disease control and chief administrator of a large medical organization over an 'Attorney and longtime Political Operative'...Or maybe someone like the General for the Medical Service Corp or someone who has lead major medical relief efforts.

But PJ talks of bed pans and tries to justify an Attorney with zero knowledge of infectious disease control, no involvement in health care management of any kind, zero background in science or medicine, no emergency preparedness organization work.

What the hell are the Job Requirements of Ebola Czar?

Democrat? Check.
Attorney? Check?
Close Personal Friend of the President and Vice President? Check
Political Organizer? Check

This is a crony appointment if there ever was one. Any sane person can see that. It's unfortunate and mindboggling. Just as mindboggling as Bush's attempted appointment of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. What were they thinking? Maybe it's something like "I need someone I can trust to have my back on this....who do I owe a favor?"? It certainly wasn't 'how do I get the very best person in the world to run with this thing.

How can you in good conscience believe this is the best President Obama could do?






If you read Howard Schultz's background you will find that he is more than capable to run Starbucks. He may not have personally picked coffeebeans but he knows a lot about coffee, whereas Klein doesn't have any background in medicine
PJ posts that a scientist tells us not to worry about being within 5 inches of an infected Ebola patient. Why is PJ posting this, unless he believes this information is important?

Since folks in hazmat suits became infected with Ebola while in close proximity, I'm confused why PJ finds his post pertinent.

Please explain.



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PJ knows that folks in HAZMAT suits get infected, but he now tells us that folks without protection are safe. You remind me of the CDC telling us that the nurse didn't go anywhere in public, and 20 seconds later stating that she went shopping.


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What expert said the intermingling of highly infectious people doesn't spread disease?



Plenty...including the scientist you erroneously cited. Try to keep up.




PJ doesn't say anything. PJ cites scientists and experts in the field of disease control. Thats why I post links to the people I cite...and I quote them correctly.

So far I've been countered by:
- Boilerman who slanders the statement of a real scientist.
- DonDiego who posts a hyperbolic photo of Ebola climbing a fence
- Jatki who has nothing except fear of the government
- And AlanLeroy who is using his untrained, uninformed common sense that runs contrary to the opinions of people who have studied previous breakouts.

Have a nice, Ebola-free day!


PJ post that "Doctors are trained to treat disease - not contain outbreaks."

I have posted on one or out recent LVA Ebola strings, that I'm comfortable with a non-scientist managing the Ebola project. I don't desire a political hack like Obama placed, which will put politics in front of American safety. I'm confident that Obama and Friends will put politics far ahead a our health.

Now PJ, tell us if we are safe without a HAZMAT suit sitting next an infected Ebola patient. Since you have posted sites that tell us so, I'm curious.



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Originally posted by: pjstroh - And AlanLeroy who is using his untrained, uninformed common sense that runs contrary to the opinions of people who have studied previous breakouts.


And you might mention that AlanLeroy's 'untrained, uniformed common sense' is supported by 75% of Physicians surveyed. Those darned doctors don't know anything about disease, right PJ? And It's AlanLeroy's common sense to error on the side of caution when dealing with a Virus that as a 70% mortality rate and disagreement in the Medical Community on the travel ban....Yet PJ insists on throwing caution to the wind. Why is that?

Perhaps PJ prefers the opinion of our new Attorney Ebola Czar to 75% of Doctors surveyed.


Doctors are trained to treat disease - not contain outbreaks. Am I wrong? I didn't go to medical school like AlanLeroy. Is there a class in medical school that teaches the history and effects of CDC controls regarding outbreaks? Because the current CDC leader has reached a different conclusion than 75% of doctors by saying the flight bans don't work...and may actually make things worse.

I'm not for throwing caution to the wind....I'm for doing what experts say is the best course of action. I've cited experts. I'm thinking they might be more knowledgeable on the subject than a generic survey of podiatrists and family doctors...or whatever. But its a free country. I dont begrudge you for having a different opinion. And doctors are a better source of information that others have provided on this board.



Don't worry. Liberal intentions are far more important than Liberal performance. Let's hire a lawyer!


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There will be a photo op meeting showing everybody how hard they working, an announcement that they have to study the situation for at least a month (code for after the election) before they say anything; and never meet again.


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obama is going to name a medical expert whose experience consists of as serving as biden and gore's chief of staff as Ebola czar. obama can now play golf tomorrow.


Does the sun rise in the east ? Check
Does a bear shit in the woods ? Check
Does a duck take to water ? Check
Does the sun set in the west ? Check
Does the right wing puppet Hoops mention "Obama" and "golf" in a FFA thread repeatedly ? Check


So Hoops....how does it feel to be a tool......and a clueless one at that ?

So now that you have done your good Faux/Koch deed of the day, you can break out the XXX DVD's and your box of tissue and tug away to your heart's delight.

Fly, Schmy ! Now the CDC doesn't want folks who might have been exposed to Ebola to sail either.

A Texas health-care worker who “may have” handled lab specimens from Dallas Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan boarded the cruise ship Carnival Magic on October 12th.

The Carnival Magic had been waiting off the Mexican coast since Friday morning [17 October] for its scheduled port visit. When Mexican authorities failed to grant permission for the ship to dock off the coast of Cozumel shortly after Noon the ship continued its voyage to its home port of Galveston, Texas, where it was due back on Sunday [19 October], according to Carnival.

Ref: Washington Post

What's wrong with those "Mexican authorities"? Don't they know Ebola cannot be transmitted unless one is within 3 feet of an infected person ? Why this could cause an international incident ! Those low-life Mexican bureaucrats will be sorry once The Obama hears about this ! They will likely receive a strongly worded letter from the former Chief of Staff to Al Gore and Joe Biden and now Ebola Czar, Ron Klain.
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