Another Federal Program in the Red, . . .

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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
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Originally posted by: LurkerPoster
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Marcis, my buddy would forbid his kids from studying African American History in college. Feel free to call me a racist, however.

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Originally posted by: LurkerPoster
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
if the student was planning to attend any college to study History, or even worse, African American History, not a bank on Earth would touch that loan.


But, but, but, don't y'all call Boiler a racist now. Since he has one black friend........



Ohhhh he would forbid it......Now I understand why he's your friend. Does he hit his kids as well when they do something he doesn't like? Wait, don't anwer that. He probably does because otherwise he wouldn't be friendship material for you.....


I finally see the problem! You just needed the shit knocked out of you a few times as a kid and it never happened.


Such harsh words. That really hurts. Sounds like you would like to give it a try.............which I think is extremely funny.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: jphelan
Why is it OK to default on payments to the government but not to a bank? For some reason, the IRS will put you in jail for not paying, but a college student can default? WTF!

When a society decides only to apply penalties for certain laws, the society will become lawless.

1) Immigration
2) College Loans
3) Wall Street Fraud
4) City streets closed for protests without a permit

Somehow, the laws only apply to people who follow the laws!


The great businessman you are going to vote for in November has mastered the art of not paying back money loaned to him from a bank.


I don't plan on voting for Trump in November, I plan to vote for Cruz. If Donald Trump has not repaid his loans, he (or his companies) should be held accountable to the full extent of the law......I understand he will not go to jail unless it can be proven he defrauded people. I also understand bankruptcy laws also provide some protections, but laws should be enforced and not ignored!

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Originally posted by: billryan
What Happens If You Default on Your Student Loans


Know what to expect if you fall behind on student loan payments.
The government has powerful tools to use against borrowers who don't make student loan payments. Here's what you can expect if you are in default on a student loan.

(Learn how to get out of default on student loan payments.)

Tax Refund Offsets

The IRS can intercept any income tax refund you may be entitled to until your student loans are paid in full. This is one of the most popular methods of collecting on defaulted loans, and the Department of Education annually collects hundreds of millions of dollars this way. In some cases, you can challenge a tax refund offset. You can learn how at www.studentloanborrowerassistance.org. You may need the assistance of an attorney. (You can find a legal expert near you on Nolo's Lawyer Directory.)

Your Paycheck Garnished

The government can take ("garnish") a limited portion of the wages of a student loan debtor who is in default. It can take up to 15% of your disposable income. However, it cannot take more than the equivalent of 30 times the current federal minimum wage.

As with the tax refund offset, you can object to a wage garnishment. Another way to avoid wage garnishment is to contact the holder of your loan and negotiate a repayment schedule. For more information, see Nolo's articles on Student Loan Repayment Options and Student Loan Consolidation.

Your Federal Benefits Taken

The government can take some federal benefit payments (including Social Security retirement benefits and Social Security disability benefits, but not Supplemental Security Income) as reimbursement for student loans.

The government cannot take any amount that would leave you with benefits less than $9,000 per year or $750 per month. And, it cannot take more than 15% of your total benefit.

For example, if Doug receives monthly federal benefits in the amount of $900, the government may take either $150 (the amount of Doug's $900 benefit that is over $750) or $135 (15% of Doug's total benefit of $900), whichever is less. So, in this case, the government can take only $135 each month.

You Get Sued

The government and private lenders can sue you to collect defaulted student loans. Unlike other debts, there is no time limit on suing to collect student loans -- you can be sued indefinitely.

For information on various defenses to student loan collection lawsuits, see the Student Loan Borrower Assistance website at www.studentloanborrowerassistance.org. To get legal representation, look for an attorney on Nolo's Lawyer Directory.





Where to Get Help


So.....you just indirectly asked my question - why are these remedies NOT enforced when 43% of student loans are either late or in default? Have you ever heard of anyone not getting their tax refund check because they were in default on student loans? Laws MUST be enforced and you should not get a tax refund check or government assistance if you are in default on a federal loan......If laws are not enforced, they will be ignored!
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: jphelan
Why is it OK to default on payments to the government but not to a bank? For some reason, the IRS will put you in jail for not paying, but a college student can default? WTF!

When a society decides only to apply penalties for certain laws, the society will become lawless.

1) Immigration
2) College Loans
3) Wall Street Fraud
4) City streets closed for protests without a permit

Somehow, the laws only apply to people who follow the laws!
Defaulting on a loan isn't illegal. It's bad financial management. We don't have debtor prisons anymore.


I beg to differ ---- if you don't pay back a loan, you can be sued and potentially forced into bankruptcy....It may not be a criminal offense, but it is a civil offense!


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Originally posted by: jphelan
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: jphelan
Why is it OK to default on payments to the government but not to a bank? For some reason, the IRS will put you in jail for not paying, but a college student can default? WTF!

When a society decides only to apply penalties for certain laws, the society will become lawless.

1) Immigration
2) College Loans
3) Wall Street Fraud
4) City streets closed for protests without a permit

Somehow, the laws only apply to people who follow the laws!
Defaulting on a loan isn't illegal. It's bad financial management. We don't have debtor prisons anymore.


I beg to differ ---- if you don't pay back a loan, you can be sued and potentially forced into bankruptcy....It may not be a criminal offense, but it is a civil offense!
Right. College loans are contracts between two or more parties. Your point had something to do with society applying 'penalties' as if breaking a contract was illegal. The Government can't take direct action against you and fine or imprison you as if you broke a law. You have to be sued by the other party. Just because contracts can be enforced in a court of law doesn't mean breaking your promise is illegal.

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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
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Originally posted by: LurkerPoster
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Marcis, my buddy would forbid his kids from studying African American History in college. Feel free to call me a racist, however.

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Originally posted by: LurkerPoster
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
if the student was planning to attend any college to study History, or even worse, African American History, not a bank on Earth would touch that loan.


But, but, but, don't y'all call Boiler a racist now. Since he has one black friend........



Ohhhh he would forbid it......Now I understand why he's your friend. Does he hit his kids as well when they do something he doesn't like? Wait, don't anwer that. He probably does because otherwise he wouldn't be friendship material for you.....


I finally see the problem! You just needed the shit knocked out of you a few times as a kid and it never happened.



A few times ?
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: jphelan
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: jphelan
Why is it OK to default on payments to the government but not to a bank? For some reason, the IRS will put you in jail for not paying, but a college student can default? WTF!

When a society decides only to apply penalties for certain laws, the society will become lawless.

1) Immigration
2) College Loans
3) Wall Street Fraud
4) City streets closed for protests without a permit

Somehow, the laws only apply to people who follow the laws!
Defaulting on a loan isn't illegal. It's bad financial management. We don't have debtor prisons anymore.


I beg to differ ---- if you don't pay back a loan, you can be sued and potentially forced into bankruptcy....It may not be a criminal offense, but it is a civil offense!
Right. College loans are contracts between two or more parties. Your point had something to do with society applying 'penalties' as if breaking a contract was illegal. The Government can't take direct action against you and fine or imprison you as if you broke a law. You have to be sued by the other party. Just because contracts can be enforced in a court of law doesn't mean breaking your promise is illegal.


It IS illegal in the sense that you can be sued in civil court and legal action such as garnishment of wages can take place. I agree, you cannot go to jail ---- but it is not "legal" to break a contract.


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