Vegas Free-for-All - Archimedes and his "soapbox"

Archimedes and his "soapbox"

RoadTrip

Apr 9, 2011
4:43am

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Originally posted by: BAGIANT
What we need is Singer back here for some entertainment value.

If I'm not mistaken, and my memory not too far gone, Singer stated or implied in one of his columns that he is casino boss, or that he had "his friend who is casino boss" submit what he (Singer) wanted said. Sorry, I do not remember the exact wording, but, to me, the implication was clear.

Since his site (vptruth) is not longer available, I was unable to locate that specific column to quote directly. I also looked in the internet archives available, but the results received were all prior to the column I am thinking of.

However, CasinoBoss does not write in the style of Singer. Can not help but notice that there is/are others who do.

Someone recently mentioned the words "witch hunt".

JMHO, of course.

I personally find most of the antagonistic messages and flames distasteful and undeserved.

tomdoug

Apr 9, 2011
6:47am

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Originally posted by: garthman83

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Originally posted by: billryan
Starting a thread to denegrate a fellow forumite is pretty poor form, but suggesting Stonewall Jackson was a horrible strategist is moronic.
Can you please provide one example of a Jackson strategy you think was horrible?
Look up the definitions of the word strategist and tactician, you have no clue what you are talking about.

I also would like to hear how you think Jackson was a bad "strategist" since you're the one making this claim. I also know quite a bit about the Civil War since I grew up around several battlefields and took several Military History classes. I certainly could understand if you were referring to some of the Union generals using both bad strategy and tactics, but I am unsure on what makes you think Jackson was a bad "strategist". Please share your thoughts on that. Saying someone must not know the difference between "strategist" and "tactician" proves nothing about Jackson.

Again strategy and tactics are 2 different animals. Simply put, strategy is the long term plan for winning a particular conflict, tactics are applied in winning a single battle.
Jackson is widely recognized as one of the greatest tactictions in warfare history, but also recognized as a sub par commander confirmed by his poor performances in the seven days war.

MoneyLA

Apr 9, 2011
7:47am

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Okay, whats the strategy for attacking a video poker machine? Do we sneak around the corner and quietly slip in the chair, or do we jump in with money ready to be stuffed, or do we slowly take our time to massage the machine before we pounce on it? should we be armed with bayonets or would a simple pencil with eraser suffice for pushing buttons, or just go at it with fists?

Roulette Man

Apr 9, 2011
9:03am

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Okay, whats the strategy for attacking a video poker machine? Do we sneak around the corner and quietly slip in the chair, or do we jump in with money ready to be stuffed, or do we slowly take our time to massage the machine before we pounce on it? should we be armed with bayonets or would a simple pencil with eraser suffice for pushing buttons, or just go at it with fists?

You give it the Fonzie (from Happy Days) hit.

Loyd Vegas

Apr 9, 2011
11:20am

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Originally posted by: BAGIANT
What we need is Singer back here for some entertainment value.

No we don't.

If you want to play with Singer go to Vegasrex.

chefantwon

Apr 9, 2011
12:52pm

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I sneak up from behind, silently stalking my prey until I slip the knife in the back of the head and its instant jello. Oh, your talking about the slot, well....er..................

Toomany10pins

Apr 9, 2011
1:13pm

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I usually use a WWE style standing drop kick to the monitor. The machine NEVER sees it coming!

billryan

Apr 9, 2011
6:50pm

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Originally posted by: tomdoug

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Originally posted by: garthman83
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Originally posted by: tomdoug
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Originally posted by: billryan
Starting a thread to denegrate a fellow forumite is pretty poor form, but suggesting Stonewall Jackson was a horrible strategist is moronic.
Can you please provide one example of a Jackson strategy you think was horrible?
Look up the definitions of the word strategist and tactician, you have no clue what you are talking about.

I also would like to hear how you think Jackson was a bad "strategist" since you're the one making this claim. I also know quite a bit about the Civil War since I grew up around several battlefields and took several Military History classes. I certainly could understand if you were referring to some of the Union generals using both bad strategy and tactics, but I am unsure on what makes you think Jackson was a bad "strategist". Please share your thoughts on that. Saying someone must not know the difference between "strategist" and "tactician" proves nothing about Jackson.

I call bullshit. Jackson had no part in the planning of the strategy for the Seven Day campaign. He was up in the Valley when Lee made his plans. His troops arrived after a series of forced marchs and the mistakes Jackson made were tactical, not strategic. Perhaps you should look up the terms.
It was a tactical mistake to order his men to make camp within earshot of a major battle. It was a series of errors in tactics that allowed the defeated Federal Army to escape. That certainly was part of any planned strategy.
BTW- The Seven Days War took place a hundred years later and several thousand miles away.

tomdoug

Apr 9, 2011
9:12pm

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Originally posted by: billryan

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Originally posted by: tomdoug
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Originally posted by: garthman83
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Originally posted by: tomdoug
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Originally posted by: billryan
Starting a thread to denegrate a fellow forumite is pretty poor form, but suggesting Stonewall Jackson was a horrible strategist is moronic.
Can you please provide one example of a Jackson strategy you think was horrible?
Look up the definitions of the word strategist and tactician, you have no clue what you are talking about.

I also would like to hear how you think Jackson was a bad "strategist" since you're the one making this claim. I also know quite a bit about the Civil War since I grew up around several battlefields and took several Military History classes. I certainly could understand if you were referring to some of the Union generals using both bad strategy and tactics, but I am unsure on what makes you think Jackson was a bad "strategist". Please share your thoughts on that. Saying someone must not know the difference between "strategist" and "tactician" proves nothing about Jackson.
Again strategy and tactics are 2 different animals. Simply put, strategy is the long term plan for winning a particular conflict, tactics are applied in winning a single battle.
Jackson is widely recognized as one of the greatest tactictions in warfare history, but also recognized as a sub par commander confirmed by his poor performances in the seven days war.

Excuse me, 7 Days battles, my bad. Those were strategic mistakes made by Jackson. Jackson's strategy was to bivouac his men for the night.

garthman83

Apr 10, 2011
12:02am

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Originally posted by: tomdoug

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Originally posted by: billryan
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Originally posted by: tomdoug
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Originally posted by: garthman83
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Originally posted by: tomdoug
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Originally posted by: billryan
Starting a thread to denegrate a fellow forumite is pretty poor form, but suggesting Stonewall Jackson was a horrible strategist is moronic.
Can you please provide one example of a Jackson strategy you think was horrible?
Look up the definitions of the word strategist and tactician, you have no clue what you are talking about.

I also would like to hear how you think Jackson was a bad "strategist" since you're the one making this claim. I also know quite a bit about the Civil War since I grew up around several battlefields and took several Military History classes. I certainly could understand if you were referring to some of the Union generals using both bad strategy and tactics, but I am unsure on what makes you think Jackson was a bad "strategist". Please share your thoughts on that. Saying someone must not know the difference between "strategist" and "tactician" proves nothing about Jackson.
Again strategy and tactics are 2 different animals. Simply put, strategy is the long term plan for winning a particular conflict, tactics are applied in winning a single battle.
Jackson is widely recognized as one of the greatest tactictions in warfare history, but also recognized as a sub par commander confirmed by his poor performances in the seven days war.

I call bullshit. Jackson had no part in the planning of the strategy for the Seven Day campaign. He was up in the Valley when Lee made his plans. His troops arrived after a series of forced marchs and the mistakes Jackson made were tactical, not strategic. Perhaps you should look up the terms.
It was a tactical mistake to order his men to make camp within earshot of a major battle. It was a series of errors in tactics that allowed the defeated Federal Army to escape. That certainly was part of any planned strategy.
BTW- The Seven Days War took place a hundred years later and several thousand miles away.

Excuse me, 7 Days battles, my bad. Those were strategic mistakes made by Jackson.

These were not "strategic" mistakes at all. For one Jackson didn't come up with the battle plan. He was simply suppose to execute the orders give to him by Lee. He was also coming up there with his forces that were fatigued from his victory in the Valley. Hill also began a frontal assault before he was even given orders to. Hill suffered many casualties because he ignored orders from Lee to support Jackson. He instead ordered a frontal assault before Jackson and his men were even at the battle yet. The "Strategic" plan was planned by Lee, but it was poorly executed by several generals that were under Lee. Confederates also had originally had a place on the James River where they had excellent high ground but Stuart instead of waiting for infantry attacked the Union below with only a single cannon and lost the position. You already know the definition of tactics and strategy and should clearly know that the mistakes made by Jackson and several others were clearly a failure in in tactics. Like Bill said the strategic plans were made Lee when Jackson was fighting in the Valley. Hill begun a frontal assault without the permission of Lee when he was suppose to wait for Jackson. These were tactical mistakes.

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