As if 6 to 5 blackjack wasn't bad enough, there are now two casinos in Nevada that pay even on blackjack

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Sad. Grand Sierra is a beautiful place too.
I was joking about even money a couple of years ago on one of the forums; now it has come true.
Still, when you think about it roulette is almost twice as high and idiot slots more than triple.


I play roulette for dealer signature and with the hopes that the dealer will hit a certain segment of the wheel. If I played it under the premise that every single spin of the wheel was random, I wouldn't touch the game.

In regards to these BJ games, unfortunately casinos think of their patrons as being naive and uninformed. If you are playing $5 a hand in BJ, it doesn't seem like that big of a deal if you only get paid $5 or $6 instead of $7.50 on an occasional blackjack. The only way to overcome this practice is to boycott and not play the game.

It is simple. If their stats show that they can get away with it, they will do it. If business drops off significantly, then they will need to consider changing back.




I would love to hear more about the dealer signature




People mistakenly think that Dealer signature must take place over a very long run. Not true. Usually you can tell if there is any consistency within 5 to 10 spins. My favorite dealers are where there are two dealers at the table and they are talking about things not related to what they are doing right there. They are in auto pilot. You wouldn't believe the consistency of some of these people.

Some hotels are now realizing that there can be a dealer signature and are instructing dealers to alter their releases on each spin. On cruise ships and at least in Australia, they were stopping the wheel and spinning it the other way on each spin.


The French roulette wheel at the Paris Las Vegas also changed direction of the wheel spin and ball spin on every spin.

I too have concerns about the accuracy of the list in the article. Whiskey Pete's pulled all of their table games off the casino floor sometime last year. IOW, they don't even have BJ now.



Well of course rules can change from month to month from casino to casino. If it turns out that Grand Sierra never had even blackjack on any of their games, then I think you will see letters to the editor and a big apology from Henry Tamburin and Casino Player.


??? LOL! I was talking about Whiskey Pete's!


Unfortunately I was a step ahead of you and I addressed your Whiskey Pete's plus the current situation with Grand Sierra. Read a little closer next time.

Ummm, you didn't address Whiskey Pete's at all. Rules changes from month-to-month are one thing. It has nothing to do with Whiskey Pete's not having table games since last year, September (or earlier) if I remember right.

I appreciate your attempt to share info that is of interest to players, but the condescending attitude when that info is shown to be flawed is misdirected.


Sheesh. I really hope you are putting us on and not pretending to be slow? I think most got it. I'm sorry that you apparently didn't. Casinos are constantly changing their BJ rules. I'm sure Whiskey Pete's had BJ when the article was written. I think the bottom line question is whether or not Grand Sierra had or still has a 6 deck game that only pays even money on blackjacks?
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Originally posted by: Roulette ManSheesh. I really hope you are putting us on and not pretending to be slow? I think most got it. I'm sorry that you apparently didn't. Casinos are constantly changing their BJ rules. I'm sure Whiskey Pete's had BJ when the article was written.


You would be dead wrong unless the article was written last year and withheld from publication until July of 2011. Whiskey Pete's has not had live table games of any kind since last year. I'm not the one who is slow here....

And in other news,the price of tea in china spiked today after bernankes address in congress today..........hehehe. Sorry guys,just kidding around,carry on.

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Originally posted by: Roulette ManSheesh. I really hope you are putting us on and not pretending to be slow? I think most got it. I'm sorry that you apparently didn't. Casinos are constantly changing their BJ rules. I'm sure Whiskey Pete's had BJ when the article was written.


You would be dead wrong unless the article was written last year and withheld from publication until July of 2011. Whiskey Pete's has not had live table games of any kind since last year. I'm not the one who is slow here....


Did they pull all table games off of the casino floor or was the pit closed when you were there? Whiskey Pete's still advertises that they have table games on their website. I remember how all of the Primm resorts have been struggling during this recession and how Buffalo Bills closed their hotel (but I don't believe their casino) during week days.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: Roulette ManSheesh. I really hope you are putting us on and not pretending to be slow? I think most got it. I'm sorry that you apparently didn't. Casinos are constantly changing their BJ rules. I'm sure Whiskey Pete's had BJ when the article was written.


You would be dead wrong unless the article was written last year and withheld from publication until July of 2011. Whiskey Pete's has not had live table games of any kind since last year. I'm not the one who is slow here....


Did they pull all table games off of the casino floor or was the pit closed when you were there? Whiskey Pete's still advertises that they have table games on their website. I remember how all of the Primm resorts have been struggling during this recession and how Buffalo Bills closed their hotel (but I don't believe their casino) during week days.

The table games were removed from the casino floor last year. Their website also advertises hotel rooms. Click the reservations button and see what happens. The website is very out-of-date...

From sionow's Hit'em All Nevada - Day 1 post: "Next, I drove across the street to Whiskey Pete’s. I was really surprised to find that not only is the hotel completely closed, but all the table games were taken out as well. This once very hot place has been relegated to a slot house with a café, a little sad."

If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe him.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: Roulette ManSheesh. I really hope you are putting us on and not pretending to be slow? I think most got it. I'm sorry that you apparently didn't. Casinos are constantly changing their BJ rules. I'm sure Whiskey Pete's had BJ when the article was written.


You would be dead wrong unless the article was written last year and withheld from publication until July of 2011. Whiskey Pete's has not had live table games of any kind since last year. I'm not the one who is slow here....


Did they pull all table games off of the casino floor or was the pit closed when you were there? Whiskey Pete's still advertises that they have table games on their website. I remember how all of the Primm resorts have been struggling during this recession and how Buffalo Bills closed their hotel (but I don't believe their casino) during week days.

The table games were removed from the casino floor last year. Their website also advertises hotel rooms. Click the reservations button and see what happens. The website is very out-of-date...

From sionow's Hit'em All Nevada - Day 1 post: "Next, I drove across the street to Whiskey Pete’s. I was really surprised to find that not only is the hotel completely closed, but all the table games were taken out as well. This once very hot place has been relegated to a slot house with a café, a little sad."

If you don't believe me, maybe you'll believe him.



Okay, Whiskey Pete's doesn't currently have table games. Now how does that completely discredit the article? As sionow points out (and how you conveniently missed, hmmmm) that many casinos have changed from what was listed in his current casino guide. The bottom line is whether or not Grand Sierra at one time offered or still offers a six deck blackjack game, whereby untied blackjacks pay even money and the dealer must hit on soft 17. Please don't give me diversions and filler.
Not trying to stir the pot here at all but I just read a thread on another board where the the poster makes referance to playing BJ on the weekend at Whiskey Petes a few months ago. Could it be they pull the tables out for weekends and holidays?
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