bob Dancer's new column, new question

If the casino gives you a free slice of pizza, do you count it towards the winnings? I mean you would have had to pay for that pizza. You got to eat.

Or do only cash comps and winnings count?

That reminds me, where do you find the best pizza in Vegas?

Ellis Island, baby.

I'll go with food as long as its a sit down, no junk food.

I love a good sit down pizza.

Another noteworthy difference: When Money sits down at a poker table, four or five people instantly develop inner smiles. Like this -------->

Well Marcus, some guy named Chris Ferguson responded to such a challange on Full Tilt poker. (look a page back for info). He put his money where his mouth lies and showed folks he wasn't all talk. You can write all you want, however if your claim to fame is 20 years old, you have an entire generation who looks at you and says and you are who?

mrmarcus, if you knew my real name, you could check my rating in the various national poker lists.

chef, I like your comment "if your claim to fame is 20 years old, you have an entire generation who looks at you and says and you are who?" As we all know, the combination that created advantage play for video poker is now pretty much extinct. just finding 9/6 jacks is difficult. then the comps and cash backs have been cut back. Even our friend Arc admits he plays a game (OEJs) which slipped through accidently in -- Minnesota is it??

Advantage play -- the formula -- might no longer exist. However, I dont criticize the VP experts for knowing the correct strategy and for teaching the correct strategy. And yes, we should follow the correct strategy in VP.

Keep the correct strategy coming, thank you. Losing 80k to win a 40k car or telling me that you still have 79,700 in your VP bankroll after losing 300 makes no sense. If I operated my business that way I'd be broke pretty quick and laying off employees a lot sooner.

It would be easier at this level than at higher denoms to increase bankroll by 10x. The most +EV games are low denom games like FPDW. You can find all kinds of 1% edges around LV. While $1000 is a little low for quarter play (it should be at least $3000), there's still a fairly good chance of success.

For a good player playing an easy game like FPDW they could easily average 1600 hands/hour playing 2 machines. That is 1600*1.25 = $2000/hour. A 1% edge would be $20/hour. To gain $9000 would take 9000/20 = 450 hours. Assuming a 30 hour/week investment of time you're looking at 15 weeks.

Now, I don't know of many good players that would spend a lot of time on this. Not enough money and pretty boring. Of course, what you really want is about 100 people to do this. Then you would see some failures and some great success stories along with the average result.

If you take a more average player then 800 hands/hour would be more realistic and you should double the time required.