Breaking news!! Singer drops his escrow demand!

I don't know where you're getting that...But the fine print DOES mention 'not responsible for baby deaths'. I guess you're right if "Journalistic integrity" and "paid infomercial program" mean the same thing.

"Some of the content can come from paid advertising and from our advertiser paid TV infomercial programs. The Best Buys TV Show is a paid infomercial program which may also include news and information which is not sponsored or paid for by advertisers. "

I honestly believe that's the issue as well. I don't mind the debate or even his promotion of his system. Everyone is entitled to an opinion; even if others doesn't agree with it. There are tons of varying opinions on this site about games, strategies, etc. and almost everyone seems to get along by following an "agree to disagree" attitude.

Singer moves from this to personal attacks; many of which are vile. IMO, that's the reason that he's so hated.

Not to open yet another can of worms but he's now posting on one of the vpfree forums. If you didn't know the history of this guy, you'd think he was a nice guy who is well mannered. I question why he can't adopt this persona across the board?

There are a lot of people who've met him (Bags, MoneyLA, Wizard of Odds, etc.) who all state that in person he's a nice guy. I wouldn't question that. However, when you read what he posts on some of the boards where he's still welcome/tolerated, it's hard to imaging that they're speaking about the same individual.

Instead of debating a strategy or the math, he quickly makes it personal which is the total extent of my problem with him.

Dan

Oh. Well, that's different. His intention was to be a shuckster all along. No wonder he's fallen from interviewing presidents to hawking inept gambling systems from crackpot gamblers. I'm sorry I tried to help. Good riddance.

I agree, Kay. All along I thought most of the posts MoneyLA started were inane questions, just looking to create controversy. Since I didn't know then who he really was, I was unaware he was gathering our opinions to use in his informercials. We've been had.

He violated our souls. I feel so used. It will be a long road to recovery.

Yet some are acting like I committed a crime for outing him.
I am not trying to pull the ignorance card, but I honestly did not know it was against the rules, so I guess I will wait to see if I am to be banned.

To his son, your dad is the one who jumped on me when I was new, questioning my gambling ways and I wasn't getting the most out of my comps and blah,blah,blah.
Do a search on me, it's less than 2 pages and I don't have an issue with anyone but him.
He should not have called me "Chip".

KayPea, you must have not seen too many movies, there are SOOO many bad movies out there and millions are spent advertising them, and when you pay your $10 to go see it (here a movie runs about $18 each person), you get no physical item.

Are you going to go after gas stations for advertising that their gas gives you better gas mileage and less gunk than another gas station? Do you go and buy octane booster to "increase" engine performance? That stuff doesn't work...

About every other time I go to Jiffy Lube, the tech tells me I need Synthetic oil in my car. I say "really prove it." He shows me the monitor and says "See, it says SAE 5w20, that means synthetic." Then I reply... "Since when does the Society of Automotive Engineers mean Synthetic, they create the measure for the rating 5w20, let me talk to your manager..." I explain the the manager what the tech said, and say this better not happen next time I come here and I CHOOSE to LEAVE and get the service done elsewhere.

In the Auto industry, they manipulate Dyno graphs to show more gains then there actually are for a product... They run the car first (usually the lowest DYNO numbers) and then keep running it with the "modification) until they can find one spike in the graph where HP may jump probably from a missfire, and then claim a total Horse Power gain of 20HP when it was just at one spike at one RPM happening one time. There is no standard or organization keeping track of things like this. When consumers buy the product, and spend their own money DYNOing their cars and see no results, they are pissed, post about it on the internet, and people choose not to buy the product... people still buy the product who do not do the research.

In the Audio industry, there is no regulation on "consumer" level components. You could by speakers that say they have a 15Hz to 22kHz frequency response when they dont come anywhere near to it, and an amp may claim 1,000 Watts and they come to that number by testing the amp in short bursts in freezing room temperatures. Do people still buy those items.. Yes, they simply do not know any better.... there is no organization regulating these items... Pro-Audio items are different... they have to meet strict regulations and be tested in specific environments to get the wattage and frequency response measurements printed on those packages...

Just because products are available or a movie is released, does not mean it is a good buy or a legitimate.

Really? So you don't see a problem with "education sessions," where he skims comps from dupes?

Since when does something that is socially unacceptable or immoral become illegal?

When someone picks their nose in public... it is socially unacceptable - do they get arrested? No, you choose not to look at it or laugh and continue walking away...

You are absolutely correct.
If someone releases a defective product and it gets too much bad press they may have to issue a recall.

But even worst is when someone poses as a consumer advocate reporter when really they are just a carnival barker for the highest bidder. That's down there with TV preachers as far as I'm concerned.