Breaking news!! Singer drops his escrow demand!

I want to make some things clear and I don't want slapinfunk being my spokesman or advocate.

AlanBestBuys.com is the name of my website. It does not mean that everything is endorsed as a best buy. In fact, on the website I have reported on stores with ripoffs, I have talked about investing scams, and I have talked about subjects that have nothing to do with "shopping" including real estate, foreclosure, bankruptcy, financial planning, health news and other news. My Best Buys TV Show has also included consumer news which does not have any connection to being a "best buy." In fact, on both the website and the TV show I have done fundraising reports to help certain non profits and charities -- asking the viewers to send money and get nothing in return.

I never endorsed Singer, and made it quite clear that I was reporting on Singer because of all of the public discussion about his system. No where in the media could I find his actual "special plays." They were never listed or explained in detail on HIS website or in his books. They were constantly referred to, but you couldn't look them up anywhere.

I was also interested in his claim that VP machines were not random and I interviewed him about his claim, because no where else in the media was I able to find information about the claim or to what extent. See the interview here and read the additional info I presented to dispute it:

https://alanbestbuys.com/id132.html

When I contacted Rob and said let me interview you and put your strategy on the web for all to see, he agreed and we did it over two shooting sessions -- one in the video poker high limit section at a casino and the second in a hotel room where we did not have time restrictions and we could use graphics to illustrate the exact hands he was describing.

Rob actually spent several weeks collecting the best examples of his "special plays" and finding the expected return for his special plays and the expected return for the "optimal play." The "math" is there for everyone to see. Nothing was hidded. Rob was up front and honest that his special plays would not payoff as well as the optimal plays but his objective was different. Do you call that a con? How upfront and honest can someone be than to say -- hey, play my way and you could lose more. But that's exactly what he did. Because he also said -- if you play my way you might win enough to have a winning trip.

I presented his strategy for all to see. I commented on his strategy but did not endorse it. In fact, I questioned it and I did comment on why he developed it. It has some good, valid points and it also has weaknesses.

Reporting on something is not endorsing, and if you can't figure that out, you're watching too much of a certain politically-leaning cable TV network.

Here is the link to the first page showing Rob Singer's Video Poker Strategy: https://alanbestbuys.com/id194.html

Read what is written there.

Secondly, no one was asked to pay a penny to read this information. You do not have to buy a book or buy a video. Oh, there are plenty of ads appearing on those pages in addition to the courtesy link to Singer's book. Yes, the free press is allowed to carry advertising.

I do not regret showing Rob's strategy. I think it is important that everyone know exactly what it is -- because it has been talked about so much -- and yes, criticized so much -- but when you see it at least you really know what it is all about. Instead of the hearsay that dominates the web.

I think that even today, his harshest critics still have not viewed his videos or even know what he is talking about. Arcimedes claimed that he ran Singer's strategy through a simulator and I doubt that he ran "Singer's strategy" through a simulator. Because the fact is, Singer's strategy cannot be run through a simulator because when he decides to use his special plays CANNOT be simulated, or programmed. It is a snap judgment that he makes when playing -- and Rob, I hope I stated that correctly.

Third, Im not the only reporter who monitors this board for information for articles and news. But I know that the others do not contribute, they just take the info for their own articles and newspapers and magazines.

Fourth, I don't care that I was "outed." Chip -- good work, I commend you for putting 2+2 together and doing your web research. Lighten up folks, she didn't commit a crime. Did she violate a rule of the board? Maybe, but I don't care. Frankly, I think all message boards should require that all posters use their real names. If that happened there wouldnt be so much libel and falso info posted all over the web.

Fifth, are we going to see the challenge take place? I am ready to webcast it.
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Fourth, I don't care that I was "outed." Chip -- good work, I commend you for putting 2+2 together and doing your web research. Lighten up folks, she didn't commit a crime. Did she violate a rule of the board? Maybe, but I don't care. Frankly, I think all message boards should require that all posters use their real names. If that happened there wouldnt be so much libel and falso info posted all over the web.

Fifth, are we going to see the challenge take place? I am ready to webcast it.

Well if you don't care no one else should either. My appologies to chipchik. I guess this means 'Money's Back'.


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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA
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Originally posted by: snidely333 We'd have to build more prisons if being a crackpot was illegal. There are plenty of crackpot books and Internet pages. People telling you federal income tax is illegal and whatnot. Those people will be in jail way before Singer.
You're missing the forest here, by focusing on a tree. The reason it's unlawful is because it's socially unacceptable because it's wrong because it's immoral. And there are also plenty of people willing to take the law into their own hands. My point is that this misadventure cannot end well, and demonstrates a lack of good judgment, to say the least.

If there are any positive outcomes here, they are vastly, vastly outweighed by the potential trouble.

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Originally posted by: fedomalley Instead of debating a strategy or the math, he quickly makes it personal which is the total extent of my problem with him. Dan
Really? So you don't see a problem with "education sessions," where he skims comps from dupes?


I heard the stories of Singer using his players card while his students participated in "education sessions" with their money but frankly I've never read where one of these affected students have come forward and confirmed it. It's pretty easy to "pile on" but I have no reason to believe that this is true or false so I stand by my original comment that my problem with him is that he's personally insulting and makes vile and bigoted comments. I don't care what his system is although I personally don't believe in it.

If in fact it's proven that he dupes people by "stealing" comps, then yes, I'd have a problem with that. I also guess that the student perhaps has some culpability....you know the deal...."if it sounds too good to be true....". I think Snidely mentioned it earlier in this thread; perhaps in a slightly different context....buyer beware.

Dan

Im back to defend my reputation. Im not back to contribute.

I want to make sure that my critics read everything I also wrote about the "correct strategy" of video poker.

Steeling comps?

If you were to put 100,000 through a machince at Rincon, you get 100 in cash back and 100 comp dollars...

In an "education" session I highly doubt that kind of coin went through... you are talking about pennies...

Plus, I see nothing wrong with trading some advice for play on his card if that's the deal he made... I doubt he switched cards on the person, and if he did, it is very obvious...

Your host gets more off your play than the .01% or .025% a casino gives you... you can make more collecting cans...

You people are so nitty when it comes to comps.

Go put $50,000,000 to win a 20K car and loose 80K in the process...
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Originally posted by: slapinfunk
Steeling comps?

If you were to put 100,000 through a machince at Rincon, you get 100 in cash back and 100 comp dollars...

In an "education" session I highly doubt that kind of coin went through... you are talking about pennies...

Plus, I see nothing wrong with trading some advice for play on his card if that's the deal he made... I doubt he switched cards on the person, and if he did, it is very obvious...

Your host gets more off your play than the .01% or .025% a casino gives you... you can make more collecting cans...

You people are so nitty when it comes to comps.

Go put $50,000,000 to win a 20K car and loose 80K in the process...


I take it you were responding to my post. I used the term "stealing" with the emphasis on it being in inverted commas which was my way of saying that this could be a loose interpretation. If he was preying on the ignorant and naive, then I think it was stealing. Once again, I never said that this occured and in fact defended Singer on this as in my mind it's hearsay until someone who was "duped" would come forward and confirm otherwise.

I believe on a wholesale basis that you're wrong about your host earning more than the cash back amount. I don't know where you play but I would suggest you can never take a negative return game and make it positive with .01 or .025%....I hope this was a typo. Earning .3% in cashback is not uncommon in a few places here in Vegas where I play. Running $4K/hr. through is worth $12/hr. in cashback plus comps (at some places). Your comparison is incorrect.

I don't think we're nitty in a collective sense when it comes to comps. If you believe they have little to no value, let me mail you my CET players card and please destroy yours and use mine exclusively from here on out. It's the safest gamble in the casino so please don't minimize it.

You're on another slippery slope when you speak of the exaggerated coin in to win a car and lose money. Obviously, you're spoofing the Dancer play at M Resort from a few months back. Like Singer, you're not dealing with reality but when the math is staring you in the face, you spin and exaggerate the facts. Don't take this so personal. Play the way you want but don't berrate someone else from opting to do what they decide to do with their money.

I keep coming back to the same point and others have alluded to it in asking where all the Singer desciples are who've won money using his "system". Think about it logically.....you have a guy who claims that he's earned just shy of $1M in the last 10 years using a system that requires 20-25 hours of play per year. If this is true, why isn't everyone doing it? Do you know many people personally who couldn't stand to have another $100K in their pockets at the end of the year for such little work?

If paytables don't matter (Singer: "I can easily beat a bad paytable), why do you see casinos lower them in an effort to make more money. If they didn't matter, wouldn't it make more sense to raise them so that customers have the illusion that they can win?

It's primarily for these reasons that I call BS on his system. Nonetheless, at the end of the day, if you want to take your money and give it a whirl, far be it from me to try to dissuade you.

Dan
Dan wrote: "you have a guy who claims that he's earned just shy of $1M in the last 10 years using a system that requires 20-25 hours of play per year."

He never made that claim to me, it does not appear in his interviews or on the web pages. I agree, that is highly unlikely playing 25-cent video poker.
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Dan wrote: "you have a guy who claims that he's earned just shy of $1M in the last 10 years using a system that requires 20-25 hours of play per year."

He never made that claim to me, it does not appear in his interviews or on the web pages. I agree, that is highly unlikely playing 25-cent video poker.


His buddy Banjojerry seems to think Singer claimed it.
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As I said, chipchic, he never made the claim to me. I dont know who banjojerry is, and I find it difficult to believe most claims from anonymous web authors on message boards.

I do, however, find it hard to believe that someone could make so much money... about $100,000 per year, playing 25-cent video poker for up to 25 hours a year.

But gee, do you think Singer was playing 25-cent video poker?

How about $25 video poker?

Mr Dancer says he wins $250,000 a year playing $25 video poker. I was at the lecture when he said it. But wait -- Dancer said it was $125,000 from video poker and $125,000 from cash back. Even so, over ten years he beat Singer by earning one and a quarter million dollars. (edited to correct my math.)

Frankly, I think there are other things you could challenge besides a claim of winning about $100K a year. It is not far fetched playing high denominations... even with limiting play to 25 hours.

edited to add: lets ask Arc, who claims to be a consistent annual winner, how much he earns and at what denomination? Im curious to see if the "dollar ratios" make sense. Arc, would you mind?
Rumor has it that banjojerry and Rob Singer are one in the same. I just found it funny that he/they talked about that same topic on these forums.
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