Breaking news!! Singer drops his escrow demand!

Money, I'm not part of the lynching mob regarding your association with Singer on your website. I don't think you committed a "crime" but I do think you use poor judgement. Why? Because one can't separate the man from his system. How long did it take from our "civil" exchange on your board to denegrate to the point that you had to make wholesale edits to his post? Taking his system off the table for a moment, what compelling argument can you make that this guy isn't right in the head?

On the issue of "which is better", can you really be that naive? Arci conceded that Singer's winning session claim is possible....$2,500 for 4 out of 5 times BUT he also said that when he blows up on the 20% of the time that it would be huge. So, you question is without merit unless you factor in the specific dollar amounts. Winning session percentage isn't what puts money in your pocket. It's the amount of money you win or lose on a per session basis that determines how you fare overall.

I frankly think you continue to miss the point. There will be those who argue against the Singer system. However, that's a relatively small subset of the negative comments here and on all of the other boards he's been thrown off. It's not for his system....it's for his vile and sick comments and threats. Get it now?

Dan

jpcos5, I rest my case on Bagiant.

You can still argue that leaving your girlfriend in the room while in poor health is okay to do. She is wearing an awesome ring after all.

The second part of my case about drooling over other women can't be argued.

You were acting like a defense lawyer prior to Bagiant's confession. Cat got your sassy tongue?

My only point was that Rizzo speaks out of both sides of his mouth. in the same thread, 2 different posts, he cried about cruel posts about his wife. Then turns around and does the same thing. That was truely amazing.

My only point was that Rizzo speaks out of both sides of his mouth. in the same thread, 2 different posts, he cried about cruel posts about his wife. Then turns around and does the same thing. That was truely amazing.

Props to Frankie. RJ, don't lower yourself. In my opinion, your content has been some of the best on the forum. But in this thread, you're just playing the other guys' games.

Is this a C- or a D+ for spelling?

He already lowered himself. To late. Sorry about my spelling. It is not easy on a blackberry.

Dan, you are a gentleman and it is a pleasure having discussions with you. I hope to meet you soon.

Regarding this that you wrote: "Taking his system off the table for a moment, what compelling argument can you make that this guy isn't right in the head?"

Ive said it here, and Ive said it to his face -- he should not have made the comments he made. It's not the way grown, mature people should act. He claims he was a victim first. And I said even if someone spit on him first, you don't spit back. But the bottom line is no one should talk that way, say those things, or be like that. It's wrong, period.

And by the way, calling people "stupid" or other words like that are equally wrong. And I hope some other forum members will take note of their own abusive way of talking. It's not a way to have a discussion, guys.

Okay, with that said, permit me to reverse what you posted above and to put the question this way:

Taking his rude behavior off the table for a moment, what compelling argument can you make that his system is totally crazy?

To me, it's as crazy as craps players who bet the horn and hardways and the field. According to the math of the game they are at a tremendous disadvantage, but if they get lucky they can win big.

Arc has posted that he's not a craps player. And he's better off, because craps is a negative expectation game unless you are a dice influencer (and I got thrown out of MGM, NYNY and Bellagio.)

But I would guess that if Arc were a craps player, he would play the dont pass (it has a slightly higher player advantage than the pass line), he would make two dont come bets with full odds (giving his two bets the lowest possible house advantage), and he would snarl at all the other players placing the 5 and 9, betting hardways and the field. Because in effect, thats what he's saying about Singer's VP system of "special plays."

You can think of Singer's "special plays" as betting the horn and hardways, and betting craps and yo on come outs.

Here is what you don't seem to grasp...let me see if I can clear it up for you

Winning $2500 80% of the time and losing $56,000 20% of the time is NOT a good thing for anyone! Unless you have money to burn.

Lets just keep it even more simple.... Lets assume 10 sessions...and don't sit here and argue that he plays more then 10 sessions. I am just illustrating a point here that your dense head can't seem to grasp!


Session one: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)

Session two: Loses 56000 (quits and leaves)

Session three: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)

Session four: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)

Session five: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)

Session Six: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)

Session seven: Loses 56000 (quits and leaves)

Session eight: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)

Session nine: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)

Session ten: Won 2500 (quits and leaves)
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Total wins from winning sessions = $20,000

Total loss from losing sessions = $112,000




In 10 sessions, on the example above he won 80% of the sessions, but still ended up getting STUCK $92,000 bucks! Talk about a winning system, and an easy way to proclaim to marks (like yourself) that YOU TOO CAN WIN 80% of the time! WOO HOO Sign me up for that!!

I know there there "may" be times when he ends up winning a little more then 2500 bucks on a winning session, but I am also pretty sure that he ends up losing more then 56K on some of those sessions as well.

There is just waaaay too much money to lose with this system!

You keep pushing the snake oil though...


P.S Danfed.....stay away from these con-men. They'll snake you one way or the other, its a lose/lose situation for you.


--Rizzo

for me personally, i dont care to have a conversation with stupid people. i can call you stupid and not be at all concerned about it getting in the way of conversation with you, because i dont want to have any conversation with you, because you are stupid.

see?

You just don't get it Jpoc

I never cried about anyone saying bad things about my wife, I just listed it as a reason why I can't stand that Rob Singer guy.

If RS was repeating and making fun of something I had written about her, then it wouldn't be a problem, as I only have myself to blame for putting her info out there.

RS just makes shit up and bunches everyone, who doesn't play like he does, (even when he doesn't even know that they do play like he does), in the same "Degenerate Addict" blanket.

BAGS only has himself to blame for the stuff I wrote, since HE put it out there for all to see. I didn't make that stuff up....HE WROTE IT!! There is a difference!!

The kind of things BAGS writes about with his old lady, are stuff that RS would have a FIELD DAY with, if BAGS were a Singer hater...

But since he is a Singer ass kisser...then its perfectly fine for him to do that stuff. Its only a bad thing to do that if you hate singer. LOL


That is the only point I had to make....I don't give two shits about BAGS, his sickly woman, or his 4 BJs. I was just proving a point that Singer is a two faced clown!

If he wants to "make up" stories about Arc killing off his woman in diapers cause of casino gambling...he should also dish it out to BAGS, cause he is the one that REALLY is killing his woman off.

Its a wheelchair for her now, maybe diapers later.

--Rizzo