California Prisoners!

never mind, will return later to comment.

I like DD and moneys idea!

J

If 30% of the prision population is illegal aliens (ooops undocumented immigrants) -- just think how much money we could save be securing the border and enforcing immigration laws.

Nevermind - you would be sued by the Federal Government.....maybe this will change in 2 years.

Why not deport them before they serve their sentence? The way it is now we make them serve their sentence, and then we deport them when they get out of jail. It seems to me like it would save a lot of money to simply deport them.

Great Idea if we have a secure border --- but what is to keep them from coming right back over again and raping or killing again?

It wouldn’t be 100%, and I am not advocating letting the murders or rapists out, but shipping the non-violent offenders out would save a lot of $$$.

I believe the Federal Government should house all long term prisoners. Lifer sentences, Death Sentences, and those serving 20-30+ years. Relieve the states of the heavy financial burden. The Feds could even become an "outsource" for states.

The feds could build regional prisons, putting to good use decommissioned military bases. Nothing too fancy, no air conditioning, no television, radio, etc, receive the bare minimum to survive, locked up 24/7/365, single cells, just hard time. Prison is supposed to be punitive, so make it so. "Good behavior" gets an hour of exercise a couple times per week, alone.

Single cells, hard time, no socializing. No choices. OK, one choice. Euthanasia. Perhaps even encouraged.

Locations could and should be in geographically uncomfortable and isolated locations. Guards and security could be recruited from existing personnel, and/or a new "service" similar to the armed forces, or as a branch of the armed forces. "Prison" employees would enlist and serve their terms on the prison bases in true "military" custom. Tours of duty could be "voluntary" if existing armed forces are used.

Unfortunately, there are probably many millions of prisoners serving long sentences. Current systems could not and would not adapt well, but they could start from scratch with "new" convicted felons and within a few decades those currently incarcerated would eventually matriculate out of the system.

Of course, there is no chance of this sort of thing ever happening.

DonDiego respectfully disagrees.

Punishment for violation of State statutes is rightly a responsibility of the State which passes judgement.

If a State chooses to provide its prisoners high quality lodging, victuals, and recreational facilities and the taxpayers/voters of the State do not object, fine. If they do object, they can effect change, or they can move elsewhere.

If another State chooses to provide its prisoners minimal quarters and victuals consistent with safe and humane treatment and the Law and the taxpayers/voters of the State do not object, fine. If they do object, they can effect change, or they can move elsewhere.

If one makes all incarcerations for serious crime a duty of the Federal Government it seems to poor old DonDiego that the residents of, for instance, low-crime North Dakota will end up paying for incarceration of lots of, for instance, high-crime California prisoners.

The Bill of Rights, as interpreted by the courts, still prohibits the draconian prison tactics some in this thread drool for. Enjoy the fantasies, but unless you're anticipating fundamental constitutional change, expect these fantasies to remain unfulfilled.

In what sense has this not been a "political thread" from beginning to end?

It may be politically incorrect in the eyes of some to point out that 30% of cailfornia prisoners are illegal aliens but it is not political nor incorrect.