Casinoboss Answers Your Questions: Part III

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Originally posted by: jhowell
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: deannajs
Regarding the Venetian/Palazzo comp (essentially eliminating comps to all but whales), I certainly understand their right to do so.

But, what are your thoughts on their recent practice of confirming room comps and then calling these players at very short notice (sometimes with 24 hours or less before their scheduled check in) and telling them that their rooms are no longer going to be comped, but they are welcome to pay casino rate for the same rooms?

And, have media reports of this practice in any way "harmed" their overall reputation?

And, if you believe it has harmed their reputation, do you think they care about this situation?

Thanks in advance, I always enjoy your threads.


I definitely don't agree with cancelling the offers and am really not sure if that's allowed, from a regulatory standpoint. I guess the regulators haven't said anything yet so it's okay, though.

I definitely think this caused them a lot of bad PR but it's pretty obvious Sheldon doesn't really care. I'm pretty sure people underneath him care, though, since they're the ones who have to deal with the repercussions both from a guest satisfaction and revenue attainment perspective.


Who regulates the hotels?


Gaming Control Board for the most part.
Casino Boss,

Do you "visit" other Vegas Forums?

Which ones?

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Originally posted by: RoadTrip
Casino Boss,

Do you "visit" other Vegas Forums?

Which ones?


No.
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: jhowell
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: deannajs
Regarding the Venetian/Palazzo comp (essentially eliminating comps to all but whales), I certainly understand their right to do so.

But, what are your thoughts on their recent practice of confirming room comps and then calling these players at very short notice (sometimes with 24 hours or less before their scheduled check in) and telling them that their rooms are no longer going to be comped, but they are welcome to pay casino rate for the same rooms?

And, have media reports of this practice in any way "harmed" their overall reputation?

And, if you believe it has harmed their reputation, do you think they care about this situation?

Thanks in advance, I always enjoy your threads.


I definitely don't agree with cancelling the offers and am really not sure if that's allowed, from a regulatory standpoint. I guess the regulators haven't said anything yet so it's okay, though.

I definitely think this caused them a lot of bad PR but it's pretty obvious Sheldon doesn't really care. I'm pretty sure people underneath him care, though, since they're the ones who have to deal with the repercussions both from a guest satisfaction and revenue attainment perspective.


Who regulates the hotels?


Gaming Control Board for the most part.


That just didn't sound right to me so I emailed the Gaming Control Board and asked if they also regulate hotels, here is their response;



We do not regulate the hotels.

Dayne Rainey

Audit Manager

Nevada Gaming Control Board




Jhowell, since the offers that were cancelled last-minute were offers from the CASINO, not the hotel per se, perhaps they DO fall under the aegis of the Gaming Control Board for that reason.
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
I watched the "Undercover Boss" show when the CEO (or whatever) from the MGM was on. At the end of the show he said something to the effect, "Our employees are our most valuable assett". I about lost my lunch when he sat there and said it with a straight face. The slot machines are the only "Employees" that you care about. They don't call in sick, they don't bitch about not getting a raise in six years+, no unemployment to pay, no benefits to pay, etc, etc.


I was wondering why you didn't answer my question when I went back to look at it and saw that it had been hijacked. I don't know how in the world it happened but somehow it did and it even had my email address posted.

Now that it has been fixed, can you give me an answer please.

Ray


What is the question, exactly? Your post is more of a statement.


Ok, how in the world can he say this with a straight face when 75% of the people that I work with that saw this knew he was full of "Grade A" BS. I've heard every story for the last 17 years that we're gonna do this for you, we're gonna do that for you, and nothing every changes for very long. Every time there is a drop in revenue, the blame it on us. They act stunned when a new casino opens in the area and all the quality people leave. If management really cared about the employees, you wouldn't have the mass exodus when a new casino opens anywhere in the country. Harrah's employees that were going to the new casino that opened over a year ago were basicly fired on the spot when the went in and truned in their two week notice.

Just let me ask you this, have you ever asked an employee that was quitting why they were doing so? If it was for a reason that was something you could change, would you ask the employee to stay if you could fix it?

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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
I watched the "Undercover Boss" show when the CEO (or whatever) from the MGM was on. At the end of the show he said something to the effect, "Our employees are our most valuable assett". I about lost my lunch when he sat there and said it with a straight face. The slot machines are the only "Employees" that you care about. They don't call in sick, they don't bitch about not getting a raise in six years+, no unemployment to pay, no benefits to pay, etc, etc.


I was wondering why you didn't answer my question when I went back to look at it and saw that it had been hijacked. I don't know how in the world it happened but somehow it did and it even had my email address posted.

Now that it has been fixed, can you give me an answer please.

Ray


What is the question, exactly? Your post is more of a statement.


Ok, how in the world can he say this with a straight face when 75% of the people that I work with that saw this knew he was full of "Grade A" BS. I've heard every story for the last 17 years that we're gonna do this for you, we're gonna do that for you, and nothing every changes for very long. Every time there is a drop in revenue, the blame it on us. They act stunned when a new casino opens in the area and all the quality people leave. If management really cared about the employees, you wouldn't have the mass exodus when a new casino opens anywhere in the country. Harrah's employees that were going to the new casino that opened over a year ago were basicly fired on the spot when the went in and truned in their two week notice.

Just let me ask you this, have you ever asked an employee that was quitting why they were doing so? If it was for a reason that was something you could change, would you ask the employee to stay if you could fix it?


Of course I've asked. I find that generally most employees leave their boss, not their company, if that makes sense. After that it's generally financially motivated.

I think most managers really do believe that employees are valuable assets but unfortunately sometimes we lose sight of that when we have financial goals we have to meet.
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Originally posted by: suecasey
Jhowell, since the offers that were cancelled last-minute were offers from the CASINO, not the hotel per se, perhaps they DO fall under the aegis of the Gaming Control Board for that reason.


Thank you. Yes, that is what I meant. In terms of room cleanliness, taxes, etc. I think that is a county thing.
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
I watched the "Undercover Boss" show when the CEO (or whatever) from the MGM was on. At the end of the show he said something to the effect, "Our employees are our most valuable assett". I about lost my lunch when he sat there and said it with a straight face. The slot machines are the only "Employees" that you care about. They don't call in sick, they don't bitch about not getting a raise in six years+, no unemployment to pay, no benefits to pay, etc, etc.


I was wondering why you didn't answer my question when I went back to look at it and saw that it had been hijacked. I don't know how in the world it happened but somehow it did and it even had my email address posted.

Now that it has been fixed, can you give me an answer please.

Ray


What is the question, exactly? Your post is more of a statement.


Ok, how in the world can he say this with a straight face when 75% of the people that I work with that saw this knew he was full of "Grade A" BS. I've heard every story for the last 17 years that we're gonna do this for you, we're gonna do that for you, and nothing every changes for very long. Every time there is a drop in revenue, the blame it on us. They act stunned when a new casino opens in the area and all the quality people leave. If management really cared about the employees, you wouldn't have the mass exodus when a new casino opens anywhere in the country. Harrah's employees that were going to the new casino that opened over a year ago were basicly fired on the spot when the went in and truned in their two week notice.

Just let me ask you this, have you ever asked an employee that was quitting why they were doing so? If it was for a reason that was something you could change, would you ask the employee to stay if you could fix it?


Of course I've asked. I find that generally most employees leave their boss, not their company, if that makes sense. After that it's generally financially motivated.

I think most managers really do believe that employees are valuable assets but unfortunately sometimes we lose sight of that when we have financial goals we have to meet.


It makes perfect sence that people quit their bosses. That's why I'm quitting in a few weeks, but you still aren't answering a part of the question. If Boss X is the reason that people are quitting, do you do something about him/her?

As for the financial matters, it's YOUR job to get people to come to the casino the first time. It's OUR job to make them want to come back. If management rewards employees when they do a good job over time, pay them what they're really worth and treat them with respect, it reflects in our attitudes when we interact with the customers. If "I" really want to be here, it makes "MY" job, making the players wanting to come back, a lot easier. If "I" really don't want to be here, "I" don't care one way or the other if they come back or not. Management can breed either type of employee. Which one is better for the company?

Now don't get me wrong. Up to about five or six years ago, I was the biggest flag waver for the company you'll ever see. It's taken a long time for me to feel the way I do now. The bosses back then would tell you when you did a good job and come up and tell you "thank you" if you came in and worked OT. They wanted me there and I wanted to be there. Now it's....

If every manager had to go back to doing the job they did when they first broke into the casino business for a day or two every year, they would remember what it's really like in the pits. I wish I knew someone that worked at the MGM so I could find out if he really made the changes he said he would.

Ray
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: casinoboss
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
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Originally posted by: rayxtwo
I watched the "Undercover Boss" show when the CEO (or whatever) from the MGM was on. At the end of the show he said something to the effect, "Our employees are our most valuable assett". I about lost my lunch when he sat there and said it with a straight face. The slot machines are the only "Employees" that you care about. They don't call in sick, they don't bitch about not getting a raise in six years+, no unemployment to pay, no benefits to pay, etc, etc.


I was wondering why you didn't answer my question when I went back to look at it and saw that it had been hijacked. I don't know how in the world it happened but somehow it did and it even had my email address posted.

Now that it has been fixed, can you give me an answer please.

Ray


What is the question, exactly? Your post is more of a statement.


Ok, how in the world can he say this with a straight face when 75% of the people that I work with that saw this knew he was full of "Grade A" BS. I've heard every story for the last 17 years that we're gonna do this for you, we're gonna do that for you, and nothing every changes for very long. Every time there is a drop in revenue, the blame it on us. They act stunned when a new casino opens in the area and all the quality people leave. If management really cared about the employees, you wouldn't have the mass exodus when a new casino opens anywhere in the country. Harrah's employees that were going to the new casino that opened over a year ago were basicly fired on the spot when the went in and truned in their two week notice.

Just let me ask you this, have you ever asked an employee that was quitting why they were doing so? If it was for a reason that was something you could change, would you ask the employee to stay if you could fix it?


Of course I've asked. I find that generally most employees leave their boss, not their company, if that makes sense. After that it's generally financially motivated.

I think most managers really do believe that employees are valuable assets but unfortunately sometimes we lose sight of that when we have financial goals we have to meet.


It makes perfect sence that people quit their bosses. That's why I'm quitting in a few weeks, but you still aren't answering a part of the question. If Boss X is the reason that people are quitting, do you do something about him/her?

As for the financial matters, it's YOUR job to get people to come to the casino the first time. It's OUR job to make them want to come back. If management rewards employees when they do a good job over time, pay them what they're really worth and treat them with respect, it reflects in our attitudes when we interact with the customers. If "I" really want to be here, it makes "MY" job, making the players wanting to come back, a lot easier. If "I" really don't want to be here, "I" don't care one way or the other if they come back or not. Management can breed either type of employee. Which one is better for the company?

Now don't get me wrong. Up to about five or six years ago, I was the biggest flag waver for the company you'll ever see. It's taken a long time for me to feel the way I do now. The bosses back then would tell you when you did a good job and come up and tell you "thank you" if you came in and worked OT. They wanted me there and I wanted to be there. Now it's....

If every manager had to go back to doing the job they did when they first broke into the casino business for a day or two every year, they would remember what it's really like in the pits. I wish I knew someone that worked at the MGM so I could find out if he really made the changes he said he would.

Ray


Yes, of course, managers get reprimanded or terminated for excessive turnover. But generally it has to be REALLY excessive or they have to do something really egregious such as sexual harassment. Otherwise it doesn't really put up any red flags - especially if the manager is making their numbers.

Some more progressive companies have what is called a 360 degree review where your boss, colleagues, and subordinates all review you but unfortunately there aren't too many progressive gaming companies out there.
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