CIA torture report

35 nations and the United Nations agreed with me on this subject.

PJ, would you like me to list a half dozen questions that you left unanswered within the past week? I ask the tough questions and you dodge.

Really?

Forkie argues that Saddam did not limit WMD inspections and access. I prove below that Forkie is incorrect.

Thank you for posting this article. I've gone as far as "pasting" several quotes from your article and a link to the article for those who wish to read the entire thing. Below I also list several quotes from an article. Why did Forkie only show the headline and not the entire article? I guess because reading it proves my point.


"The teams, which returned to Iraq on Nov. 27 after a nearly four-year absence, drew up contingency plans to evacuate even before their redeployment."

"Inspectors have experience in getting out of Iraq in a hurry: In December 1998, they pulled out on the eve of U.S.-British airstrikes amid allegations that Baghdad was not cooperating with the teams."

"I should note that in recent weeks, possibly as a result of increasing pressure by the international community, Iraq has been more forthcoming in its cooperation with the IAEA,"

Here a link to the article. https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-03-17-inspectors-iraq_x.htm


Here's a few quotes from a second article, plus a link. It discusses the problems that the United Nations had with Iraq limiting WMD inspectors.

September 16, 2002: Baghdad announces that it will allow arms inspectors to return "without conditions."

November 8, 2002: The UN Security Council adopts Resolution 1441. The resolution declares that Iraq "remains in material breach" of past resolutions and gives Iraq a "final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" set out by Security Council resolutions stretching back to the end of the 1991 Persian Gulf War.


Here a link to the this article. https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/iraqchron

So to summarize:

For weeks prior to the invasion "Iraq had been more forthcoming in its cooperation with the IAEA"...

At which point Bush tells the IAEA inspectors to leave...

And then the US invades, occupies, and fails to find WMDs.

Somewhere Boilerman, there's some old Russian claiming that the Soviet invasion Afghanistan was both justified and a really good idea. Maybe you should get in touch; you have so much in common.

Forkie, possibly you're not old enough to clearly recall the games that Saddam was playing with the inspectors. He would make promises, then break promises, then make promises, then make promises. Each time we threatened military actions, he would allow inspectors access. He would wait for things to calm, then again restrict the inspectors. This was just one of twenty times they he promised to play nice. Is Forkie implying that we should have believed Saddam's promise number twenty, after he broke his first nineteen promises?

I hope that Forkie doesn't and will not have children as they will play him like a cheap violin. Forkie would be the parent with two obnoxious kids at the amusement park threatening time after time after time to take the naughty children home for misbehaving. The problem is, that they would have figured out years ago that Forkies threats carry no weight, but instead just a bunch of hot air.

Two more quotes from CNN.

June 23-28, 1991 - Iraqis fire warning shots at inspectors to prevent them from intercepting vehicles suspected of carrying nuclear equipment.

September 21-30, 1991 - IAEA inspectors discover documents relating to Iraq's nuclear weapons program. Iraqi officials prevent the inspectors from leaving the site for four days.

Dude you so win! We had to invade Iraq in 2003 because of what they did in..........1991. Obviously.

We invaded Iraq for what they did from 1991 - 2003. 1991 was the first of 20 promises broken. Dude, do some research. You look silly.

Allrighty then, here's a summary of interrogation techniques approved then and now.



What the senate report claims occured and again, no permanent physical damage inflicted.





Doesn't seem all that horrible, no permanent physical damage.Don't see any fingernail pullings,lit cigars and certainly no beheadings with a katana while blindfolded. Now let us check the new improved interrogation techniques.



You gotta be F'n kidding me, "incentive approach" ? WTH does that mean...C;mon tell us where osama issss...? I'll give ya a bite of this delicious homemade cookie, wife baked 'em this morn-inggg...

"emotional or hate approach"???

This isn't any kind of interrogation approach, it's a try to get some information w/o pissing the guy off approach.

I'm surprised good cop/bad cop isn't on there. Put 'em in a room with Frank Drebbin and nordberg why don't ya, get some really valuable intel there. SHEESH



Oh and one can read the definitions in the article
https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/meet-the-press-24-7/breaking-down-u-s-interrogation-tactics-n267836

Wow, that new stuff is certain to get the bad guys to cough up lots of sensitive information, and especially time sensitive information. That's scary stuff.