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Torturing enemy soldiers really gave the Germans a leg up in WWII didn't it? Pick up a history book.

we defeated those regimes without torturing their soldiers. And then we convicted perps from those regimes of war crimes. And then we convicted WwII Japanese perps of war crimes for waterboarding our troops too.

History doesnt back up the case of torture yielding victory. It does provide a record of what parties in a war were led by sadistic scumbags. I hold america to a higher standard than Nazi Germany. But some countries embrace your values....you'll find many of them in the same geographical area where ISIS recruits come from

How about the Japanese during WWII? Japanese troops beheaded American pilots. Not to mention about 7,000 allied casualties per week in the Pacific near the end of the war. And the Bataan Death March wasn't exactly Geneva approved, was it? You know, from those wonderful folks who brought you Pearl Harbor.

Obviously, there were unprincipled and cowardly Americans back then who would have advocated for torturing the Japanese, not to mention torturing Nazis, right? And during our cold and occasionally hot wars with the Communists, there were lots of Americans who would have been eager to sacrifice our principles and torture some godless Russians and Red Chinese.

So that America fights unprincipled and evil foes is not exactly unique, is it? And neither, Boilerman, are Americans like you.

My friend Ted, who spent two year fighting in Iraq, understood that the Geneva Conventions provided him zero protection while in custody of terrorists. For this reason, he preferred that we used torture to help keep Americans from the clutches of such animals.

Liberals want utopia yet don't understand reality.

Anyone who has served in the U.S. military would never want to find themselves in a foxhole with P.J. He obviously has all of the answers while really having never experienced the reality of defending the freedoms he enjoys. He should thank his good fortune for being born in the U.S.

Liberals, as you might have noticed, refuse to answer your difficult question.

Can I answer? I do want to answer - plus I'm worried Boilerman might have an epileptic seizure - or even cry.

No I wouldn't waterboard the prisoner. Your argument presumes that doing so would have him yield truthful intelligence. Draft dodging coward, Dick Cheney would agree with you. War hero and former POW, John MCCain says the exact opposite....

So I guess its just a matter of who you think has better insight into the effectiveness of torture. I'll go with the "liberal" you voted for president in 2008.

Now I want to play quiz master. I'm feeling lazy and I always wanted to be like ALex Trebek.

Boilerman - was the US justified in trying Japanese soldiers for war crimes (including waterboarding) ? Were those soldiers scumbags for doing that to our troops? Or were they just doing what they had to do to win the war? Please answer, Boilerman. I wont get to sleep tonight until I read your reply.

Please provide more specifics about what happened and I'll answer.

While water boarding may have been one of the charges, the executions had more to do with the millions of people the Japanese leaders had killed. Battaan death march anybody?

The fact checkers say you're wrong Hoops. And I'll post a source to show that. I wont hold my breathe for your source because we all know you are incapable of posting one.
Japanese were convicted of waterboarding


McCain is referencing the Tokyo Trials, officially known as the International Military Tribunal for the Far East. After World War II, an international coalition convened to prosecute Japanese soldiers charged with torture. At the top of the list of techniques was water-based interrogation, known variously then as "water cure," "water torture" and "waterboarding," according to the charging documents. It simulates drowning.

R. John Pritchard, a historian and lawyer who is a top scholar on the trials, said the Japanese felt the ends justified the means. "The rapid and effective collection of intelligence then, as now, was seen as vital to a successful struggle, and in addition, those who were engaged in torture often felt that whatever pain and anguish was suffered by the victims of torture was nothing less than the just deserts of the victims or people close to them," he said.