CIA torture report

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
If PJ already understood these facts, there is no need for me to provide the link. Or is it possible that PJ didn't know this stuff?

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Maybe PJ & forky can compare the photos of American POW's and Gitmo POW's. Maybe he can watch the movie Unbroken to get an understanding of how the Japs mistreated American prisoners.

Perhps then they can understand real torture is.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
If PJ already understood these facts, there is no need for me to provide the link. Or is it possible that PJ didn't know this stuff?

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I can care less if you provide the link or not. Its your integrity, not mine. But if you set a standard for other people to provide facts with links...and answer your questions...and then dont hold yourself to the same standard....well, you know, it makes you look like a massive hypocrite and a coward. If you are cool with that than so am I. I worry about my integrity. You can worry about yours.

For the record - My original question never said waterboarding was used exclusively in WW2. Boilerman changed my question over the course of several posts while he was running away from it. And we already know Boilerman believes waterboarding amounts to torture because he's said as much on this thread. The only question Boilerman cant bring himself to answer is whether or not torture should have been a punishable offense when it was done to our soldiers in WW2. I can care less if Boilerman answers it or not. I just want this thread to stand as an object lesson for how Boilerman holds everyone else to a different standard than he holds himself. And Its pretty friggin' amusing !

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
If PJ already understood these facts, there is no need for me to provide the link. Or is it possible that PJ didn't know this stuff?

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I can care less if you provide the link or not. Its your integrity, not mine. But if you set a standard for other people to provide facts with links...and answer your questions...and then dont hold yourself to the same standard....well, you know, it makes you look like a massive hypocrite and a coward. If you are cool with that than so am I. I worry about my integrity. You can worry about yours.

For the record - My original question never said waterboarding was used exclusively in WW2. Boilerman changed my question over the course of several posts while he was running away from it. And we already know Boilerman believes waterboarding amounts to torture because he's said as much on this thread. The only question Boilerman cant bring himself to answer is whether or not torture should have been a punishable offense when it was done to our soldiers in WW2. I can care less if Boilerman answers it or not. I just want this thread to stand as an object lesson for how Boilerman holds everyone else to a different standard than he holds himself. And Its pretty friggin' amusing !

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Originally posted by: hoops2
Unbroken is a true story of the mistreatment of an American POW by the Japenese during WW2. So it is a relevant example in your torture story. THe Japanese did far worse to Americans than what we did to the terrorists

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Originally posted by: hoops2
so you think he wasn't tortured? From wikipedia

On their 47th day adrift, Zamperini and Phillips reached land in the Marshall Islands and were immediately captured by the Japanese Navy.[22] They were held in captivity, severely beaten, and mistreated until the end of the war in August 1945. Initially held at Kwajalein Atoll, after 42 days they were transferred to the Japanese prisoner-of-war camp at ?funa, for captives who were not registered as prisoners of war (POW). Zamperini was later transferred to Tokyo's ?mori POW camp, and was eventually transferred to the Naoetsu POW camp in northern Japan, where he stayed until the war ended. He was tormented by prison guard Mutsuhiro Watanabe (nicknamed "The Bird"), who was later included in General Douglas MacArthur's list of the 40 most wanted war criminals in Japan. Held at the same camp was then-Major Greg "Pappy" Boyington, and in his book, Baa Baa Black Sheep, he discusses Zamperini and the Italian recipes Zamperini would write to keep the prisoners' minds off the food and conditions.[19] Zamperini had at first been declared missing at sea, and then, a year and a day after his disappearance, KIA. When he eventually returned home he received a hero's welcome

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