CIA torture report

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: jatki99
I understand waterboarding is an unpleasant experience and I watched some videos on youtube that attest to the fact but, still, it's not like pulling fingernails out or burning with lit cigars or anything. There's no permanent damage from it. Now that there forced rectal feeding..........I might have to concede..


"permanent damage" need not be attained to constitute torture.

torture
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the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.


I remember when right wing radio host, Man Cow Muller set out to prove how harmless water boarding was by volunteering to be water boarded. I give him credit for having the balls to subject himself to it.
Man Cow learns about water boarding


I think that may be one of the videos I watched, I know I saw one where some guy voluntereed, lasted about half a second.
I get what the definition of torture is PJ, I'm saying that waterboarding isn't nearly bad enough as some of the tortures invented through history, there's some pretty bad ones, rember the thread about torture a ways back here? I'm saying it's not permanent, it doesn't leave a scar, you walk out the same as you walked in physically.
If the CIA had done anything involving straight razors, lit cigars, or the rack I would have thought twice but I can live with waterboarding if it produced results and I know there's conflicting storys if it did or not. Bottom line, you nor I will ever know if it actually produced any results.

I still think forced rectal feeding sounds worse than waterboarding, UGH
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Politifact bias

Study Finds Fact Checkers are biased against Republicans

Plus many, many more.

Seriously. How can Forkie keep a straight face when he posts BS that he is trying to pose as being real?
Meaning that Senator John McCain shouldn't be able to keep a straight face over his statement that was simply verified by the fact checker, right?

Roulette Man, you really didn't think this one through, did you?




I'm sorry that you don't get it Forkie. I actually used the same ploy that you do all of the time so you must be admitting that you don't think things through, right? I would never, ever quote that service as a fact checker if you want to have any credibility at all.
Damn, who is going to tell (Politifact quoting) DonDiego that he doesn't have any credibility?

Could you do it, Roulette Man? I don't have the heart.

Since you have so much faith in anything John McCain does or says, then I'm sure you thought he had full credibility when he appointed Palin as his VP candidate.
That was my favorite thing he ever did!
I'll add this, rather a repeat of what I've already mentioned.

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Originally posted by: jatki99
I'll add this, rather a repeat of what I've already mentioned.


Of course you could show pictures of crime victims to justify torturing criminals, couldn't you?

If that's your style, maybe learn to speak Arabic. You'd fit in better over there.


3 CHILDREN beheaded by Isis today.
No argument here. Calling it enhanced torture might be the best description, however.


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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: jatki99
I understand waterboarding is an unpleasant experience and I watched some videos on youtube that attest to the fact but, still, it's not like pulling fingernails out or burning with lit cigars or anything. There's no permanent damage from it. Now that there forced rectal feeding..........I might have to concede..


"permanent damage" need not be attained to constitute torture.

torture
1.
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain on someone as a punishment or to force them to do or say something, or for the pleasure of the person inflicting the pain.


I remember when right wing radio host, Man Cow Muller set out to prove how harmless water boarding was by volunteering to be water boarded. I give him credit for having the balls to subject himself to it.
Man Cow learns about water boarding


Forkie continues to produce reports which are intentionally inaccurate.

Hell, Forkie wants us to believe that the "torture report" proves that US gained no intelligence, yet the Democrats didn't even talked to those performing the enhanced torture and collecting the intelligence.

Liberals on this site should be ashamed about those putting together such an intentionally false report. It's the same as lying, but don't worry..........."You can keep your doctor, period."

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Lurker, we invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein failed on his agreement to allow United Nations inspectors full access to his country...
Really?




Boilerman had no shame in being a disciple of the partisan investigation of Bengazhi....and those allegations were complete BS and embarrassing for anyone with an ounce of integrity.

Boilerman complained the CIA was not interviewed.
But The CIA Director just had an open and transparent press conference where he confirmed the CIA lied about the enhanced interrogation program, used abhorrent techniques, and he agreed with the current president's decision to ban that program going forward.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Damn, who is going to tell (Politifact quoting) DonDiego that he doesn't have any credibility?

Hey ! Keep DonDiego out of this. He's sworn off political posts.

"used abhorrent techniques"

If you call pouring water on people abhorrent what do you call beheading 4 children?
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