Clown Car Creates Confusion.....and a Canadian !!

He is required by law to have insurance, so if he chose to break the law you would be crying foul. He bought into the ONLY plan that is available to him.
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Originally posted by: hoops2
He is required by law to have insurance.


What law requires him to have insurance? Do tell.



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Originally posted by: pjstroh
What law requires him to have insurance? Do tell.

"When Obamacare was passed into law, Sen. Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges."
Ref: CNN

The Obamacare Law not only requires Congresspeople to buy insurance, . . . it requires them to buy insurance through an Obamacare Exchange.
1. Sen. Cruz is not required to buy health insurance for his family. He could pay the penalty instead, and leave them uninsured.

2. Sen. Cruz need not buy on an Obamacare exchange. He could instead buy a private plan not offered within the exchange, say by an insurance agent or broker.

3. Had Sen. Grassley (R-IA) not inserted an amendment into Obamacare that forced members of Congress and their staffs out of the Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, Sen. Cruz could remained on his employer coverage and out of the exchanges like so many millions of employed persons and their families have.

4. Decent Americans of all stripes should warmly welcome Sen. Cruz and his family, at long last, to America's new dawn of affordable health insurance, without shame, finger pointing, or mockery.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego


The Obamacare Law not only requires Congresspeople to buy insurance, . . . .


Your link says nothing of the sort. If a Senator chooses to get insurance he must buy it through the exchange...but there is no mandate for him to buy insurance. He can opt out just like Don Diego falsely predicted everyone else would when the new law forced them to "buy something they didn't want" or pay a penalty. Teddy Bear can simply pay the penalty.

Senator Cruz wishes to help millions of Americans by relinquishing them of the burden of having access to health insurance. He's just not including himself in that group. Raise your hand if you are surprised.
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
What law requires him to have insurance? Do tell.

"When Obamacare was passed into law, Sen. Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges."
Ref: CNN

The Obamacare Law not only requires Congresspeople to buy insurance, . . . it requires them to buy insurance through an Obamacare Exchange.
You don't understand what you're reading.

Thanks to the Grassley Amendment, Obamacare prevents Congress from providing health insurance to its employees. That's it. It doesn't require them to go on the exchanges, despite what you think that sentence implies. It simply prevents one employer, Congress, from providing health insurance to its employees. Which as a practical matter drives these employees towards the exchanges.

Obamacare does not require members of Congress, their staff, or anyone else to be insured. It does, however, bar employers from subsidizing insurance bought by their employees on the exchanges. Sen. Grassley's amendment prohibited Congress from providing employee health insurance. In this way, Congress became the only employer in the nation legally barred from providing employer insurance.

In response, President Obama issued a regulation allowing employees of Congress to receive employer subsidies through policies purchased through the exchanges. Sen. Grassley has said he's glad the President issued that regulation.

Grassley now says that was his intent all along. "My goal, regardless of how the amendment was worded … was that we need to go into the exchange so that we would have to go through the same red tape as every other citizen," he told Roll Call Thursday. But because of what Grassley called a "drafting error," the amendment left out language that would have explicitly given lawmakers the same before-tax employer contribution as any other federal employee gets.

USA Today, Sep. 27, 2013
So if Ted Cruz chose not to buy insurance for his family, I suspect you and the mainstream media would find no "irony" if someone got sick and he had to pay for care.

Freedom is having the choice of whether to purchase insurance and choosing who to purchase it from.

Socialism is someone else deciding what is "best for you" and being force to purchase this choice or face fines / penalties.

I prefer freedom - and I suspect Ted Cruz does also.
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Originally posted by: jphelan
So if Ted Cruz chose not to buy insurance for his family, I suspect you and the mainstream media would find no "irony" if someone got sick and he had to pay for care.
Correct. Because I know what "irony" means.

It would be massively depressing that a person of education and means like Sen. Cruz could be that irresponsible with his health and the health of his wife and children.

But it wouldn't be the least bit ironic. It would be principled. That principle being howlingly spiteful ignorance.
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Originally posted by: jphelan
Freedom is having the choice of whether to purchase insurance and choosing who to purchase it from.
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Originally posted by: jphelan
Socialism is someone else deciding what is "best for you" and being force to purchase this choice or face fines / penalties.
More or less.

But realize, we're a socialist nation. We have the socialized the following:

01. Military/defense
02. Highways/roads
03. Public libraries
04. Police
05. Fire department
06. Postal service.
07. Student loans and grants
08. Bridges
09. Garbage collection
10. Public landfills
11. War
12. Farm subsidies
13. CIA
14. FBI
15. Congressional health care
16. Polio vaccine
17. EPA
18. Social security
19. Museums
20. Public schools
21. Jails/prisons
22. Corporate/business subsidies
23. Veterans health care
24. Sewers
25. Parks
26. Street lights
27. Border patrol officers
28. Many more

Americans support these and many other socialist programs. Have for a long time.

We're also freedom lovers. Hence this tension.

Suggesting that something is bad because it's socialist suggests profound ignorance about what America and Americans value.
Socialism is better defined by establishing who owns the means of production.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: DonDiego"When Obamacare was passed into law, Sen. Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges."
Ref: CNN

The Obamacare Law not only requires Congresspeople to buy insurance, . . . it requires them to buy insurance through an Obamacare Exchange.
You don't understand what you're reading.

Umm, . . . DonDiego actually does understand what he is reading: " . . .Sen. Charles Grassley . . . attached language to the bill that mandated members of Congress and their staffers would have to buy health insurance on the newly created health insurance exchanges."
[boldface added - DD]
That's pretty clear. And it's what DonDiego stated.

Chilcoot's beef is with CNN, not poor old DonDiego.
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