The Confederate flag

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
I. There would be a boobie on each of the Flag's 3 corners.

Umm, . . . a rectangular flag has 4 corners; now DonDiego is irretrievably confused.
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
I. There would be a boobie on each of the Flag's 3 corners.

Umm, . . . a rectangular flag has 4 corners; now DonDiego is irretrievably confused.

It also has 3 corners. The 4th is available for a corporate logo for a nominal naming rights fee.

Let me get this straight. Texas is having this discussion? Chilly must be a racist, hate mongering, psycho, communist, hate filled bastard.

I'm kidding, and only pointing out that this is the sort of of thing that Chilly says when one has an opposing view to his.

Actually, he will agree with my communist comment.


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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: Tutontow
"Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition. [Applause.] This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It has been so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well, that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North, who still cling to these errors, with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. "

Anyone can do a search and find the whole speech.
Excellent post.

Here's an excerpt from the State of Texas' Statement of Succession. In it, Texas made clear that it was seceding in order to maintain white supremacy over negroes:

We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.

February 2, 1861.

The whole thing, the WHOLE thing, was about maintaining white dominion over black-skinned human slaves kept as property.

And here's their flag:




When in the hell will elected officials stop worrying about what minority of the voters will think about their decisions and just vote the way they feel. The Confederate flag is really not the problem it has been around for many years it the people who are scared to death of losing an election they will not speak their feeling on anything. They just want to roll with the punches keeping people happy and keep getting elected. This is not a black and white issue but many want to make it one it simply people who want 15 minutes of fame. Pulling the General Lee because of the flag now this is really proving a dumb ass approach to a supposedly stupid problem. OBAMA was right blind them with bullshit and they will follow. When you are messing with the Prayers in Schools, the Ten Commandments, and the words Under God you are not messing with Obama. Let's face it with everything that is going on we have so many small fires going we don't see the entire forest is on fire. We don't have to worry other nations will destroy us we are doing a good job all by ourselves. They say the rich get richer and the saying also applies to other things like you get high enough in Government you are untouchable--OBAMA---SHARPTON--ERIC HOLDER--and the Queen of it all Hillary. They should all be in lockdown. Instead they either resign or run for a higher office.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
DonDiego sorta likes free speech. Everybody defends free speech with which they agree. But the only time that defending free speech matters is when the free speech under discussion is something with which the defender disagrees.

DonDiego says it's only a flag. Some folks think waving a Confederate Flag is offensive; some don't. Some folks think stepping on an American Flag is offensive; some folks don't.

DonDiego says one of the good things about the Constitution of the United States is that there is no acknowledgement of the right of citizens to never be offended.

Amazon has decided to stop selling Confederate Flags; they continue to sell Nazi Flags. Some State Governments are deciding to no longer fly the Confederate Flag; some aren't.
DonDiego has no problem with any of this.

And if lots of folks and organizations continue to buy/sell or not-buy/sell or fly or not-fly or whatever they do regarding the Confederate Flag DonDiego has no problem.

For the record:
DonDiego does not possess a Confederate Flag. So far as DonDiego can remember he has never owned a Confederate Flag or even a piece of clothing with a Confederate Flag on it.
DonDiego possesses lots of books addressing the US Civil War and other historical events in which the Confederate Flag appears. He intends to keep them.
DonDiego does posses some Pirate Flags and he drinks from a large coffee mug emblazoned with 15 different Caribbean Pirate Flags, . . . quite educational actually. He intends to keep them. Man-oh-man ! It must've been cool being a pirate, sailing the seas, doing whatever one wanted, . . . DonDiego was born to late for a lot of good things. But DonDiego digresses.

An admission:
DonDiego is a little bothered by the apparent decision of the national Parks Service to discontinue selling Confederate Flags at Battlefield Parks. Whatever one's opinion, the existence of the Confederate Flag is an historical fact.

In Oceania, the job of Winston Smith was to erase history so that the infallibility of The Party could never be questioned. As it turns out, . . . it worked. The citizens did believe The Party was infallible.
Ref: 1984





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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
TV Land has pulled Dukes of Hazard reruns because there is a confederate flag painted on the car, the General Lee.

The only thing I ever found offensive about the Dukes of Hazzard was the awful writing. This is probably taking political correctness too far.

I wonder if Lynyrd Skynyrd is going to get rid of the flag?



TV Land pulls Dukes of Hazard


I saw that, absolutely, positively absurd, politically correctness running at its highest amokness . This country is going crazyin trying not to offend
ANYONE .

Anyone who thinks the war of the northern aggression was based solely on slavery is woefully ignorant. It was pretty simple,the southern states did not want to be told what they could or could not do do. Remember since the founding of the country there has always been a debate on how power the staes would have vs what the Fed. Govt. would have. Some argued for a strong central govt.,csome argued for more power to the states, it all culminated inthe war.Simple history in a nutshell ya'll .

BTW I could go for Alans flg on onexcondition, will the boobies be big 'uns?

thegreek says "When in the hell will elected officials stop worrying about what minority of the voters will think about their decisions and just vote the way they feel. The Confederate flag is really not the problem it has been around for many years it the people who are scared to death of losing an election they will not speak their feeling on anything. They just want to roll with the punches keeping people happy and keep getting elected. This is not a black and white issue but many want to make it one it simply people who want 15 minutes of fame. Pulling the General Lee because of the flag now this is really proving a dumb ass approach to a supposedly stupid problem. OBAMA was right blind them with bullshit and they will follow. When you are messing with the Prayers in Schools, the Ten Commandments, and the words Under God you are not messing with Obama. Let's face it with everything that is going on we have so many small fires going we don't see the entire forest is on fire. We don't have to worry other nations will destroy us we are doing a good job all by ourselves. They say the rich get richer and the saying also applies to other things like you get high enough in Government you are untouchable--OBAMA---SHARPTON--ERIC HOLDER--and the Queen of it all Hillary. They should all be in lockdown. Instead they either resign or run for a higher office."----- Every now and then someone on this site posts the truth. I applaud what the greek has said, for the truth is the truth. Of course, what he has said will be wasted on the most liberal of those who post here, even though his posting is all about them.
Patriots are "Makers", not "Takers". I'm sorry, but you don't qualify.


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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
Perhaps President Obama could appoint a bipartisan, multiracial, omnigender, trans-religious, multinational team to design a new flag that ushers in an era of tolerance, cooperation, and good will among all Earthers.
All amazing hilariousness aside, patriots like me who have studied this land's experiment in liberty know that, depsite the best efforts of some white supremacists seven score and 14 years ago, we already have that flag.




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Originally posted by: jatki99
BTW I could go for Alan's flag on one condition, will the boobies be big 'uns?

DonDiego has been a cogitatin' on alanleroy's flag also.

DonDiego opines that there'll have to be 5 corners, . . . to include a black booby, a brown booby, a red booby, a white (or pink) booby, and a yellow booby, . . . to represent the historical Five Races of Mankind.

While understandin', . . . and respectin', . . . jatki99's perfectly understandable preference, poor old DonDiego suggests a variety of sizes to reflect the diversity of (wo)mankind, . . . colors and sizes to be paired randomly so as not to give offense.

My only question is where does it stop. I mean Under God as well as prays in our schools offends some people, the Ten Commandments offends some people, the F bomb offends some people, the N word offends some people, what next maybe the smell of Kentucky Fried Chicken may offend some people. people today better get a grip on life. Go back 50 years ago and if everything that offended some then as it does today we would be in worst shape than if we faced 4 more years of OBAMA. Now that's going to offend some people. Live and let live mind your own business not the business a few minority groups out there. The first group that comes to my mind is that beautiful group called the ACLU. We have a Supreme Court that makes laws and changes today that effect every single American in one way or another without question. No matter what they do (right or wrong) that effects millions of people they have a job for life....one hell of a set up.
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