Dancer won another car

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Originally posted by: tomdoug
Yeah your a life long winner, sure, thats why you tucked tail and ran back to the dreary, below zero, snow infested hell called Minnesota. If you had been winning you never would have left.


Sorry to burst your bubble but I never left Minnesota. I only spent my winters in Vegas to avoid "the dreary, below zero, snow infested hell".

I mean, hey .... are you really this stupid. You start repeating something you read once as if it were true. Do you know this demonstrates a high degree of gullibility? Well, I guess that was already established. Now, crawl back in your hole before you make an even bigger fool of yourself.

Yes Arcimedes, he appears to be that stupid. Considering the boner that he has for you, it is a high probabililty that it is Singer. There is a small probability that it is Melbedewy but that is less likely. Melbedewy isn't stupid but he is more of a jackass instead especiallly the way he treats you.
Bob Dancer's job, as a gambler, never gives him the satisfaction of a job well done.

Sure, he gets money, I guess. He says he does, and I accept that.

But while a farmer can look at his harvest and know that he's helping feed people . . .

and a pilot can look at her deplaning passengers and know she helped them arrive safely at their destination . . .

and a pediatrician can look at a child and know he's helped her join her friends on the playground . . .

all Bob Dancer gets is a check and a bit closer to his grave.

It's fine that he's chosen to spend his life in dingy casinos in solitary pursuit of his next canary-yellow Camero. To each his own. But, to me it's really sad that, in doing so, he's cheating himself out of so many worthwhile payoffs.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Bob Dancer's job, as a gambler, never gives him the satisfaction of a job well done.

Sure, he gets money, I guess. He says he does, and I accept that.

But while a farmer can look at his harvest and know that he's helping feed people . . .

and a pilot can look at her deplaning passengers and know she helped them arrive safely at their destination . . .

and a pediatrician can look at a child and know he's helped her join her friends on the playground . . .

all Bob Dancer gets is a check and a bit closer to his grave...
Dancer himself has commented on this effect. I believe that's why he continues to teach, consult and write. Not so empty that stuff, huh?

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
To Dan regarding your challenge: Suppose your opponent in this challenge finds a full pay machine? Is your challenge still on? And are you making this challenge because you, yourself, don't believe anyone can make a profit playing video poker?

Here's what you wrote, Dan, and it makes no mention that a poor pay table is required... you just gave the option for playing a poor paytable:

"Come to Vegas, find a vp game that you like to play (remember, the crappier the pay schedule, the easier it is to win, right?), play 30 hours at a minumum of 500 hands per hour and we'll match your results with real money. If you're a winner after that time, I'll double your winning. However, if you lose, you now owe me an equal amount of your loss. Pick any game/denomination/location you'd like. I'll be here waiting.....it will be the most lucrative play in town for me."

In order for you to make this bet/offer it seems to me that you, yourself, believe that video poker cannot be beaten? I would think that even Arcimedes would want to take this bet? Certainly Dancer would!


Money, please don't twist what I said....

This offer was specific to Singer (original), Singer #2 (a.k.a. tomdoug) and Singer #3 (a.k.a. thlf). Why? Because I contend that if you let any/all of these three play utilizing the "Singer method" with "special plays" that in even the relatively short span of 30 hours and 500 hph that they'll lose. In their case, it doesn't matter what game they find....if Singer's method is employed, it'll take the positive advantage out of the machine. So yes, this offer is for the three of them; anywhere in Vegas at any time.

Contrary to what you state, I KNOW that vp can be beaten. That's why you don't see me offering it to Arci or even melbedewy (despite his incoherent albeit very amusing videos) as these guys know you can beat the game. Beating the game consists of playing good vp games incorporating mathematically correct strategy, getting cash back, getting bounce back, taking advantage of offers and promotions (including drawings, tournaments, etc.). When you add all of this together, it's a winning formula....not necessarily today or this week or even this month but certainly year in and year out.

To be clear, I'm not president of the Dancer fan club....in fact I'm not even a member. It's pretty evident that Bob works both sides of the fence and looks out for his own best interest. Without putting words in his mouth, I'm pretty sure Arci shares similar feelings about Dancer. Nonetheless, I have to give the guy credit where it's due. He does play, he does win (overall), he is knowledgable and he does know how to analyze and evaluate a play and to attempt to maximize its return.

Just ask yourself a question.....if you could play vp for 25 hours a year, earn thousands of dollars and get tons of free play, why would you "retire" from this? This nails the BS meter. Honestly, I don't care how Singer plays...it's his money....have fun and do what you want. But to have him or his desciples come on here and essentially discredit anyone else who doesn't employ his method warrants being called out about it.
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Originally posted by: arshaleign
Dancer himself has commented on this effect. I believe that's why he continues to teach, consult and write. Not so empty that stuff, huh?
I agree, that would definitely mitigate.

Still, though, there's something to be said for hard work and how it tangibly improves the lives of others.

If one's life work has to be done under a pseudonym, that's a problem.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Bob Dancer's job, as a gambler, never gives him the satisfaction of a job well done.

Sure, he gets money, I guess. He says he does, and I accept that.

But while a farmer can look at his harvest and know that he's helping feed people . . .

and a pilot can look at her deplaning passengers and know she helped them arrive safely at their destination . . .

and a pediatrician can look at a child and know he's helped her join her friends on the playground . . .

all Bob Dancer gets is a check and a bit closer to his grave.

It's fine that he's chosen to spend his life in dingy casinos in solitary pursuit of his next canary-yellow Camero. To each his own. But, to me it's really sad that, in doing so, he's cheating himself out of so many worthwhile payoffs.


I understand what you're saying and I personally don't disagree BUT....

Don't you know people who go to work everyday but generally hate what they do?

What about people who are introverts who are best left to work on their own?

I worked for a guy once who basically told me "find something you love to do and you'll never work a day in your life". I know he borrowed that from someone else but it was almost 30 years ago and it's something that I've never forgotten. I haven't thus far and hopefully will never have to work at a job that I don't love. Obviously, everyone has "one of those days" but that's to be expected in life. A steady diet of that might lead you to reconsider your career path.

Gambling isn't something that we have to do to pay the bills so my perspective isn't the same as Dancer's. He is however cut from the cloth that doesn't want to do a traditional 9 to 5. I believe that's his motivation to continue to do what he does and augment it with teaching, writing and consulting.

For me, it's a fun hobby that pays but I'm not sure the fun factor would stay if I had to do it everyday and relied on it in a big way for my primary income.

Dan

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: arshaleign
Dancer himself has commented on this effect. I believe that's why he continues to teach, consult and write. Not so empty that stuff, huh?
...If one's life work has to be done under a pseudonym, that's a problem.
Right.


(And tell that to "Anthony Curtis.")


Fair point.

But I'd argue there's no reason for Twain or "AC" to need pseudonyms for their lives' works.

I think Dancer has good reason to do his work under a pseudonym, and it's similar to the reasons strippers, graffiti artists, and drug dealers have.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
Fair point.

But I'd argue there's no reason for Twain or "AC" to need pseudonyms for their lives' works.

I think Dancer has good reason to do his work under a pseudonym, and it's similar to the reasons strippers, graffiti artists, and drug dealers have.


The problem with that is that literally EVERYONE in town knows the real name of "Bob Dancer". Or anyone who can use google. In other words-everyone.
Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
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