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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Had you quoted my entire sentence instead of just the end of it, you would not have been able to twist the discussion in the direction you did.
Bob, here's your entire sentence:
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Originally posted by: BobOrme<b>The people involved in racing of every type are some of the smartest people I've ever met, and the fan base is as diverse as you'll find in any other sport.
I don't know who you have met in your life, so I can't possibly question whether the people you've met in racing are some of the smartest people you've ever met.
That's why I only took on the second part of your sentence, in which you falsely claim that racing's fan base is diverse, relative to other sports. Bob, it's not. No, the sport is no longer Darlington 1966. I agree with that. But it's far less diverse than pretty much every other sport not played on horsesback or in bullrings.
86 drivers and crew chiefs every Sprint Cup race. As best I can tell (and I'm old enough to have some general insight into these things, not perfect, but pretty good), 84 of them are white males. The other two are Danica and Juan.
I'm sorry, but in 21st century America, that's not diverse. I'm not making a criticism of the sport, I'm just challenging your false statement that the sport is "as diverse as you'll find". It's not.
You ignored and continue to ignore my reference to
every type of racing. I can point you directly to a black man that won the top class of a major series of racing in Phoenix less than two weeks ago, and two women who won in the same series lower brackets just last week. It appears that you think Cup racing is all there is because that's all you watch. You swerved from fan base to drivers and ownership. NASCAR is predominately white in those aspects.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
Of course your post was an attack. The shaved-back#3 photo is more than a decade old and is frequently used by people to demean race fans.
Bob, I'm mostly a hockey and baseball fan. We have loads of doofus fans too, don't get me wrong. Even you should see the humor in that photo.
I find it strange that someone could find someone else to shave a number in their back hair.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
I see up close and personal who is in the stands on a very regular basis in many different markets. Your opinion on fan demographics is wrong.
No, it's not. The crowds at NASCAR races are very white. Diversity at a NASCAR race consists of an occasional redhead (inevitably known as "Rusty"). Again, it's not as bad as it once was. But you'd need to be socially blind not to recognize that the faces in the grandstands don't at all look like the ones in line at the DMV.
Again, you are relying on your own stereotypical vision, and it is focused strictly on NASCAR. I know auto racing of every type. I personally know many minority racers, and I have seen grandstands with very diverse crowds.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
I like NASCAR, like I said, I watch almost all the races. I DVR Hotpass and couldn't believe Blaney almost won the other night after years of start and park.
But let's not kid ourselves about who our fellow fans are. They're almost all white people.
