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Debate Night (2nd Presidential Debate)

BFrank
BFrank
Oct 10, 2016
12:31pm
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Snap Poll results:
CNN – Hillary 57-34
YouGov - Hillary 47-42

Are these their pre-debate polls?

malibber2
malibber2
Oct 10, 2016
1:07pm
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Originally posted by: BFrank
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Originally posted by: malibber2
Snap Poll results:
CNN – Hillary 57-34
YouGov - Hillary 47-42

Are these their pre-debate polls?


No, those are after debate scientific polls of people that watched the debate asking them to pick a winner.
Roulette Man
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Oct 10, 2016
2:15pm
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
billryan
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Oct 10, 2016
4:08pm
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I'm beginning to wonder how clothed RM is he posts. It would certainly explain a lot.

Roulette Man
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Oct 10, 2016
9:56pm
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I'm beginning to wonder how clothed RM is he posts. It would certainly explain a lot.


How clothed RM is he posts? Do you want to put down the drink and speak in English?
forkushV
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Oct 10, 2016
10:47pm
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
More "spin." Ms. Broaddrick's complete January 2, 1998 affidavit re: Paula Jones case.

"1. My name is Jane Doe #5. I am 55 years old and have been married since 1981. I have one child, age 28. I currently reside in Arkansas.

2. In November of 1997, two private investigators retained by Paula Corbin Jones approached me at my residence. I declined to speak with them, but provided the name of my family attorney. I subsequently was served with a subpoena seeking the production of documents and purporting to require my testimony at a deposition in the civil action between Paula Corbin Jones and President William Jefferson Clinton (Civil Action No. LR-C-94-290). I have never met Ms. Jones, nor do I have any information regarding the allegations that she has advanced against President Clinton. In this regard, I have no knowledge or information regarding the events she has alleged occurred on May 8, 1991 at the Excelsior Hotel or, for that matter, any knowledge or information regarding any interaction between herself and Mr. Clinton.

3. I met President Clinton more than twenty years ago through family friends. Our introduction was not arranged or facilitated, in any way, by the Arkansas State Police. I have never been an Arkansas state employee or a federal employee. I have never discussed with Mr. Clinton the possibility of state or federal employment nor has he offered me any such position. I have had no further relations with him for the past (15) years.

4. During the 1992 Presidential campaign there were unfounded rumors and stories circulated that Mr. Clinton had made unwelcome sexual advances toward me in the late seventies. Newspaper and tabloid reporters hounded me and my family, seeking corroboration of these tales. I repeatedly denied the allegations and requested that my family's privacy be respected. These allegations are untrue and I had hoped that they would no longer haunt me, or cause further disruption to my family.

5. I do not possess any information that could possibly be relevant to the allegations advanced by Paula Corbin Jones or which could lead to admissible evidence in her case. Specifically, I do not have any information to offer regarding a nonconsensual or unwelcome sexual advance by Mr. Clinton, any discussion offer or provision of state or federal employment or advancement in exchange for sexual conduct, or any use of state troopers to procure women for sex. Requiring my testimony at a deposition in this matter would cause unwarranted attorney's fees and costs, disruption to my life and constitute an invasion of my right to privacy. For these reasons, I have asked my attorney to advise Ms. Jones's counsel that there is no truth to the rumors they are pursuing and to provide her counsel with this sworn affidavit.

Further affiant sayeth not.

Jane Doe #5"
alanleroyII
alanleroyII
Oct 11, 2016
12:00am
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
More "spin." Ms. Broaddrick's complete January 2, 1998 affidavit re: Paula Jones case.


Oh. The affidavit she recanted. The original affidavit is only half the story. If she really was a rape victim, why would she sign an affidavit and then recant it?

"In the fall of 1997, Paula Jones’s private investigators tried to talk to Broaddrick at her home, also secretly taping the conversation. Broaddrick refused to discuss the incident, saying “it was just a horrible horrible thing,” and that she “wouldn’t relive it for anything.” The investigators told her she would likely be subpoenaed if she would not talk to them. Broaddrick said she would deny everything, saying “you can’t get to him, and I’m not going to ruin my good name to do it… there’s just absolutely no way anyone can get to him, he’s just too vicious.” Broaddrick was subpoenaed in the Jones suit soon after and submitted an affidavit denying that Clinton had made “any sexual advances”. The recording of Broaddrick’s conversation with the investigators was leaked to the press, but Broaddrick continued to refuse to speak to reporters.

...This, along with the discrepancy between the letter and Broaddrick’s affidavit, attracted the attention of independent counsel Kenneth Starr, who was investigating Clinton for obstruction of justice. After being approached by the FBI, Broaddrick consulted her son, a lawyer, who told her she could not lie to federal investigators. After they promised her she would not be prosecuted for perjury regarding her affidavit in the Jones case, Broaddrick recanted the affidavit. However, she insisted that Clinton had not pressured or bribed her in any way, and so Starr concluded that the story was not relevant to his investigation and his report only mentioned the recanting in a footnote."

So...She told Paula Jones investigators that she would deny everything....Because of the pain it would cause her and "no way anyone could get to him" anyway. When she was later interviewed by the FBI, she was advised by counsel that she must tell them the truth....and she recanted her affidavit. Just a little detail Forky left out.

I don't know if Broaddrick's story is true or false. I do know that victims of sexual violence often deny the acts took place. I think smearing a woman for political gain based on the victim's original admittedly false statements is a tactic that would make Goebbels proud.


forkushV
forkushV
Oct 11, 2016
12:33am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
More "spin." Ms. Broaddrick's complete January 2, 1998 affidavit re: Paula Jones case.


Oh. The affidavit she recanted. The original affidavit is only half the story. If she really was a rape victim, why would she sign an affidavit and then recant it?...
Probably for the same reason she claimed that Breitbart paid for her trip to the debate - which would have been illegal - and then the next day said that they did NOT pay for her trip. It's her nature.

She's an utterly unreliable witness by any standards, and pointing that out isn't "smearing her." It's just stating the obvious.
alanleroyII
alanleroyII
Oct 11, 2016
12:52am
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
More "spin." Ms. Broaddrick's complete January 2, 1998 affidavit re: Paula Jones case.


Oh. The affidavit she recanted. The original affidavit is only half the story. If she really was a rape victim, why would she sign an affidavit and then recant it?...
Probably for the same reason she claimed that Breitbart paid for her trip to the debate - which would have been illegal - and then the next day said that they did NOT pay for her trip. It's her nature.

She's an utterly unreliable witness by any standards, and pointing that out isn't "smearing her." It's just stating the obvious.
"It's her nature" [to lie]. I bet you say that about all rape victims who deny their rape. "She must have been asking for it...why else would her story change?". Is that how you roll now? How convenient to leave out the fact that the affidavit you hang your hat on was also recanted under oath.

Roulette Man
Roulette Man
Oct 11, 2016
12:54am
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Look at Forkie spin for his favorite liar. I'm guessing she was pressured to sign the affidavit. I never said she was a pillar of self confidence and courage. I saw what she had to say and I saw how uncomfortable Bill Clinton was on discussing it. Spin all you want and defend that monster, but I believe it happened.
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