Debate Night (2nd Presidential Debate)

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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
More "spin." Ms. Broaddrick's complete January 2, 1998 affidavit re: Paula Jones case.



Oh. The affidavit she recanted. The original affidavit is only half the story. If she really was a rape victim, why would she sign an affidavit and then recant it?...
Probably for the same reason she claimed that Breitbart paid for her trip to the debate - which would have been illegal - and then the next day said that they did NOT pay for her trip. It's her nature.

She's an utterly unreliable witness by any standards, and pointing that out isn't "smearing her." It's just stating the obvious.
"It's her nature" [to lie]. I bet you say that about all rape victims who deny their rape...
Nope. Just the ones who are proven liars.

Broaddrick did lie - either in her affidavit (under oath!) or in her subsequent recanting (under oath!). She also lied either about receiving travel funds from Breitbart, or in her subsequent recanting of that statement.

Do you deny that?
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
More "spin." Ms. Broaddrick's complete January 2, 1998 affidavit re: Paula Jones case.



Oh. The affidavit she recanted. The original affidavit is only half the story. If she really was a rape victim, why would she sign an affidavit and then recant it?...
Probably for the same reason she claimed that Breitbart paid for her trip to the debate - which would have been illegal - and then the next day said that they did NOT pay for her trip. It's her nature.

She's an utterly unreliable witness by any standards, and pointing that out isn't "smearing her." It's just stating the obvious.
"It's her nature" [to lie]. I bet you say that about all rape victims who deny their rape...
Nope. Just the ones who are proven liars.

Broaddrick did lie - either in her affidavit (under oath!) or in her subsequent recanting (under oath!).
Hey Your just proved my point....because all rape victims who first deny their rape are now 'proven liars'.

What makes women deny rape...

"All those women did was what Knoll did. What I did, at least at first. What so many victims do, whose names we may never know. They decided, probably subconsciously, that it was better to deny the violence already done to them than to acknowledge it in a culture that dehumanizes victims at every turn. Given what happened when they did come forward – they were painted as liars, their sex lives examined in the national media and now there are calls for them to be tried for perjury – it’s hard to say they were wrong."

It's not hard to understand why Broaddrick would offer a false affidavit. She said she would. She just wanted it to end. And now she's painted by Forky as a liar. Like so many other victims of sexual violence. You must be so proud to be one of her persecutors.
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Whoops, Ms. Broaddrick said that Breitbart paid for her travel to the debate. But when that was determined to be an illegal corporate in-kind contribution, Ms. Broaddrick did a 180 and said that Breitbart did NOT pay for her travel.

So for those keeping score at home, Broaddrick told the truth twice - about Bill and Breitbart - and lied twice - about Bill and Breitbart. We just don't know for sure which is which.


You keep up the spin and maybe Santa Clause will give you something. For the rest of us, we see through your cheap act. You seriously would let a woman be raped in the name of your horrible politics. Shame on you Forkush.
More "spin." Ms. Broaddrick's complete January 2, 1998 affidavit re: Paula Jones case.



Oh. The affidavit she recanted. The original affidavit is only half the story. If she really was a rape victim, why would she sign an affidavit and then recant it?...
Probably for the same reason she claimed that Breitbart paid for her trip to the debate - which would have been illegal - and then the next day said that they did NOT pay for her trip. It's her nature.

She's an utterly unreliable witness by any standards, and pointing that out isn't "smearing her." It's just stating the obvious.
"It's her nature" [to lie]. I bet you say that about all rape victims who deny their rape...
Nope. Just the ones who are proven liars.

Broaddrick did lie - either in her affidavit (under oath!) or in her subsequent recanting (under oath!).
Hey Your just proved my point....because all rape victims who first deny their rape are now 'proven liars'...
"First deny?" Broaddrick denied it FOURTEEN YEARS LATER - UNDER OATH. She also lied about that Breitbart thing two days ago.

So all Trump has got is Ms. Credibility here, plus a woman whose harassment case was dismissed, plus the clear evidence that as a court appointed attorney, Hillary may have actually defended a bad guy. Which for anyone who respects our Constitution, is a feature, not a bug.

So Trump has got nothing.
I gave Forkie the reason of why she was timid to ever come forward with it. Back in those days, rape victims received far worse treatment. Imagine trying to take on the governor of Arkansas. She would have been destroyed and would never have been able to open her business.

I originally wanted to believe OJ and Bill Cosby were innocent, but there was too much evidence and too many people who came forward. Forkie feels all of these women and all of these law enforcement people were part of a conspiracy to get Bill Clinton. I wonder if he would be this cold and callous if Bill Clinton had done this to his sister or mother?

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Look at Forkie spin for his favorite liar. I'm guessing she was pressured to sign the affidavit. I never said she was a pillar of self confidence and courage. I saw what she had to say and I saw how uncomfortable Bill Clinton was on discussing it. Spin all you want and defend that monster, but I believe it happened.
Yeah, accurately quoting Ms. Broaddrick's deposition is now "spin." And forgive me for not relying on your fabulous judgment:

"Hillary's worst nightmare is debating Donald Trump. Hell, I'd almost pay money to see the debate. I can see Hillary's people setting up too many restrictions, because they know the Donald would tear her a new asshole." - Roulette Man
I see Alan drank the kool-aide. The recanting proves she is a perjurer. A competent attorney wouldn’t call her to the witness stand to make a case.
You are a sad little man.

By the way Forkie, can you give me the link to that specific quote.? I found part of the quote from back in August, but there is wording, I don't remember ever saying.
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I see Alan drank the kool-aide. The recanting proves she is a perjurer. A competent attorney wouldn’t call her to the witness stand to make a case.
I drank no kool-aide. I said I don't know whether or not she's telling the truth. I said there are reasons rape victims deny their rapes. I can point to lots of evidence of that...including false testimony, false police reports and false claims. My only point was Forky's highlighting her original affidavit without mentioning that it was also recanted under oath is dishonest and sleazy and possibly attacking a victim. Now go ahead and carry on with your smear of a possible victim of sexual violence....As long as you really know the Truth.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
"First deny?" Broaddrick denied it FOURTEEN YEARS LATER - UNDER OATH. She also lied about that Breitbart thing two days ago.

She denied it after telling Jone's lawyers she would deny it because she could not relive the pain it caused and because of the 'viciousness' of the Clintons. She just wanted it to go away....like many victims of sexual assault. It may be wrong, but it's perfectly understandable.

Now, I have no idea what this Breitbart thing really is...but if that's all you've really got then you must have secretly believed Broaddrick could be telling the truth all these years...up until 2 days ago. The truth is you don't care if it's true or not as long as Hillary gets elected. What a hypocrite.

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Originally posted by: malibber2
I see Alan drank the kool-aide. The recanting proves she is a perjurer. A competent attorney wouldn’t call her to the witness stand to make a case.
I drank no kool-aide. I said I don't know whether or not she's telling the truth. I said there are reasons rape victims deny their rapes. I can point to lots of evidence of that...including false testimony, false police reports and false claims. My only point was Forky's highlighting her original affidavit without mentioning that it was also recanted under oath is dishonest and sleazy and possibly attacking a victim. Now go ahead and carry on with your smear of a possible victim of sexual violence....As long as you really know the Truth.


I don’t know the truth for sure and neither does anybody else. That is the point. Her numerous inconsistent statements (2 of which were made under oath) make it impossible for anybody to ever know the truth. What we are left with is a mere allegation supported by someone that has made inconsistent statements about what happened. That was the conclusion most people reached when this was aired extensively 20 years ago. That there was simply no credible evidence of this having happened.

The only smear is the vile disgusting behavior of Trump and some here at the LVA bringing up an old unprovable allegation to smear the wife of the man the allegation was made against. If we are going to be consistent, shouldn’t we devote twenty years of news coverage to the woman that is accusing Trump of rape now? Should we seat his accuser in the front row at the next debate? Using the standards of Trump and some of the posters here, should we label any Trump supporter a supporter of child rape?
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