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alanleroy
alanleroy
Aug 8, 2015
7:53am
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No, I'm extremely impressed when anyone makes it to senior VP at a Fortune 500 company. But as CEO she bombed. Presidential material? Well for someone like you who voted to put Palin a heartbeat away, I suppose so.

Remind me what Hillary's accomplishments were to be elected Senator?...
I don't think she was particularly qualified to be a Senator. But at least she hadn't utterly failed as a CEO.

Carly's in good company with Lincoln and Truman then....and Doubling revenue while taking the growth rate from 2 percent to 9 percent isn't exactly 'utterly failing'. And she's smart. And she has a deeper understanding of business and technology than Hillary or any of the other candidates...I like that. A lot. And she isn't a career Politician.

As a non-partisan I don't vote in the Republican primary so I'll just wait to see who gets nominated. I think both Kasich and Fiorina would be strong Republican contenders in the General Election. I'd be tempted to vote for Democrat Howard Shultz if he decided to run. There are also several Republican candidates I would not vote for under any circumstances.

forkushV
forkushV
Aug 8, 2015
8:44am
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No, I'm extremely impressed when anyone makes it to senior VP at a Fortune 500 company. But as CEO she bombed. Presidential material? Well for someone like you who voted to put Palin a heartbeat away, I suppose so.

Remind me what Hillary's accomplishments were to be elected Senator?...
I don't think she was particularly qualified to be a Senator. But at least she hadn't utterly failed as a CEO.

Carly's in good company with Lincoln and Truman then....and Doubling revenue while taking the growth rate from 2 percent to 9 percent isn't exactly 'utterly failing'...
Dude, Harry Truman had been the President of the United States for over three years when he first ran for president. He was qualified. And Lincoln had been a successful attorney, a national politician for almost twenty years, had courageously opposed the Mexican-American War, and had been a leader in the moderate abolitionist movement. Being a successful CEO in business is not at all a prerequisite to being president, but if it's the only thing on your resume, maybe you should be good at it.

And destroying HP stockholder equity by buying Compaq (increasing market share!) and then laying off thousands of employees really was the business equivalent of invading Iraq. Maybe she'd be a good choice for you guys.
malibber2
malibber2
Aug 8, 2015
9:55am
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Alan the moderate loves Carly's ideas which consisted of calling the likely Democratic nominee a liar.
alanleroy
alanleroy
Aug 8, 2015
10:06am
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No, I'm extremely impressed when anyone makes it to senior VP at a Fortune 500 company. But as CEO she bombed. Presidential material? Well for someone like you who voted to put Palin a heartbeat away, I suppose so.

Remind me what Hillary's accomplishments were to be elected Senator?...
I don't think she was particularly qualified to be a Senator. But at least she hadn't utterly failed as a CEO.

Carly's in good company with Lincoln and Truman then....and Doubling revenue while taking the growth rate from 2 percent to 9 percent isn't exactly 'utterly failing'...
Being a successful CEO in business is not at all a prerequisite to being president, but if it's the only thing on your resume, maybe you should be good at it.

And destroying HP stockholder equity by buying Compaq (increasing market share!) and then laying off thousands of employees really was the business equivalent of invading Iraq. Maybe she'd be a good choice for you guys.

Way to ignore that she didn't start as a CEO. She has an entire career with many successes and failures. She worked her way to the top. Far better than Marrying your way there...and Carly's career path makes President Obama's original Presidential resume look like an unqualified temporary. Had he ever managed a single person besides his senate and campaign staff? Did he have any management or organizational training? Can he even read a Balance Sheet or understand Financial Statements? Did he ever fire anyone or oversee a large budget?

Forkush will have us believe Fiorina is unqualified for President because HP's stock declined during a period when virtually all Technology stocks declined....And being fired as a CEO of a public company somehow disqualifies one of the most powerful and influential female business executives from the office of the President. I don't believe it does for one minute. And reasonable people don't either. You can take any person with a lifetime of accomplishments and focus in on a single failure. It's a propaganda technique. Both sides do it. Expect a lot more of it between now and November 2016.

alanleroy
alanleroy
Aug 8, 2015
10:25am
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Alan the moderate loves Carly's ideas which consisted of calling the likely Democratic nominee a liar.

I like her because she's smart, technology savvy, worked her way to the top of a major international corporation and is not a career politician.

Some of her actual ideas I don't like...and my diatribe is not an indication that I will throw my support behind Ms. Fiorina.....Just an unbiased counter to the ongoing political smear tactics trying to portray a very substantial and highly qualified candidate as unqualified.

I think she presented well in the Republican debate. Her answers were reasoned, sharp, targeted and she was well prepared. I think she may do well against Hillary...Of course Democratic operatives will try to portray her as a failed business leader with no redeeming qualities....and the Republicans will do similar to Hillary.

Kasich seemed the most moderate of the group. He's trying to be a consensus builder and reach out to Democrats and Independents. There's a lot to be said for that. The question there is 'can he get nominated?'. He'd give Hillary a run for it too.

I'm content to watch the debates and see how it plays out and then make my decision. I may not vote for President. I may vote Libertarian. I may vote Republican. I'd vote Democratic if Howard Shultz ran.

chefantwon
chefantwon
Aug 9, 2015
11:40am
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HP stock price when Fiorina became CEO: $60.
When she was fired: $12.

“Most business commentators consider Fiorina's tenure at HP to be a disaster. The stock price dropped by 50% only to rally 10% on the announcement of her firing. She fired 28,000 people before she herself was fired, departing with the 21 million dollar golden parachute that is financing her campaign.” - Adrianna Packard, 2010


Guess Forkie hasn't been apart of a corporate merger. First thing is to eliminate duplication, unlike the Federal Government.

Forkie also hasn't read too much on corporate salaries has he? They typically get paid in cash AND company stock.

Oh Forkie, just how many US workers were let go when GM shut down its plants in Ohio? Those execs got paid quite well.
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