Vegas Free-for-All - Ebola - What Should the Gubmint Do?

chefantwon

Oct 29, 2014
10:19am

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Some more experts

To be cautious, Samaritan’s Purse, a relief organization, imposes a 21 day isolation on workers returning from West Africa ever since one of its own, Dr. Kent Brantly, became infected. The hospital where Spencer practices emergency medicine requires a 21 day wait to return to work.

As of October 25, the World Health organization reports that 450 healthcare workers have contracted Ebola this year and 244 have died.

ABOUT ONE IN SEVEN PEOPLE INFECTED WITH EBOLA DOESN'T HAVE A FEVER BEFORE DIAGNOSIS. Airport screening relies largely on temperature taking. Data on over 4,000 Ebola cases – the most complete analysis ever – published October 16 in the New England Journal of Medicine show that 13% of patients don’t develop fever early on.

So what? If they are not symptomatic they cant spread the disease short of jerking off on their seatmate's face. That's a medical term.

DR PJ, can you provide the exact time when a person can spread the disease? I am talking specifically about the time just before symptoms appear.....

Don

Oct 29, 2014
10:53pm

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Uh-OH !

Ebola can be spread through droplets, . . . like from a sneeze. And even from, say, a doorknob on which someone sneezed hours earlier. Just like The Plague, aka "The Black Death".

Who says so? The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Isolation of those who have been in an Ebola Hot Zone is looking better and better every day.

Don

Oct 29, 2014
11:00pm

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And, . . . in other news, . . . "California Orders 21-Day Quarantine For Travelers From West Africa Who Had Contact With Ebola Patients".

Ref: CBS LA

pjstroh

Oct 29, 2014
11:55pm

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Uh-OH !

Ebola can be spread through droplets, . . . like from a sneeze. And even from, say, a doorknob on which someone sneezed hours earlier. Just like The Plague, aka "The Black Death".

Who says so? The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Amazing how the CDC can be viewed as both credible and non-credible by the same person, isn't it?
The same exact CDC says the quarantines are an unnecessary means to contain the disease with asymptomatic people. (FYI - DonDiego might be interested to realize a sneeze would an attribute of someone that is symptomatic.)

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Isolation of those who have been in an Ebola Hot Zone is looking better and better every day

Better tell that to Governor Christie who ran away from his own quarantine policy as soon as he heard the word "lawyer". He put our entire population at risk (presuming he believes his own BS).

Boilerman

Oct 30, 2014
12:12am

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PJ's post: Amazing how the CDC can be viewed as both credible and non-credible by the same person, isn't it? The same exact CDC says the quarantines are an unnecessary means to contain the disease with asymptomatic people. (FYI - DonDiego might be interested to realize a sneeze would an attribute of someone that is symptomatic.)

Boiler argues that the most difficult thing when listening to all current government agencies is deciding when they're telling the truth and when have they been mandated by Obama to spin things and not tell us the "whole truth and nothing but the truth". Obama and friends can't be trusted.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
Uh-OH !

Ebola can be spread through droplets, . . . like from a sneeze. And even from, say, a doorknob on which someone sneezed hours earlier. Just like The Plague, aka "The Black Death".

Who says so? The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

Isolation of those who have been in an Ebola Hot Zone is looking better and better every day

Better tell that to Governor Christie who ran away from his own quarantine policy as soon as he heard the word "lawyer" and put our entire population at risk (presuming he believes his own BS).

forkushV

Oct 30, 2014
4:47am

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I bet DonDiego and Boilerman went out and bought a shitload of duct tape in 2003.

Boilerman

Oct 30, 2014
5:36am

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More accurately, Conservatives more accurately measure risk and reward, or cost and benefit.

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I bet DonDiego and Boilerman went out and bought a shitload of duct tape in 2003.

Don

Oct 30, 2014
6:59am

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I bet DonDiego and Boilerman went out and bought a shitload of duct tape in 2003.

forkushV loses.

Poor old DonDiego has never resided in an area he thought likely to be the target of terrorism activities which could be alleviated through ample employment of duct tape.

However, he has made apparently successful use of tin foil hats over the years. So far as he can detect, he has not been the victim of Government mind control.

"In 2005 a group of engineering and media students at MIT performed attenuation versus frequency measurements for different tinfoil hat designs, concluding that the hats actually increased the intensity of RF energy at certain frequencies, with the implication that the tinfoil hat fad was actually a government plot to increase the effectiveness of mind control rays. Notably the specific frequencies amplified exist in the spectrum of the emission band owned by the government! Of course the government could have blackmailed the MIT students to write that false report to make you take off your tinfoil so they can affect you with mind control rays. Then again the government could also be blackmailing me to write this so you will keep your tinfoil cap on to better amplify the mind control rays."
Ref: rationalwiki

Sometimes one must read between the lines.

pjstroh

Oct 31, 2014
10:39pm

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Maine court rules ebola quarantine on healthcare worker is based on irrational fear and bad science....and thus not legal.

Reuters

"In Friday's order, LaVerdiere said, "the court is fully aware of the misconceptions, misinformation, bad science and bad information being spread from shore to shore in our country with respect to Ebola.

"The court is fully aware that people are acting out of fear and that this fear is not entirely rational. However, whether that fear is rational or not, it is present and it is real," the judge added, saying Hickox should follow three restrictions even though she is "not infectious."

After a hearing held by telephone, LaVerdiere decided that Hickox must continue direct monitoring of her health, coordinate travel plans with health officials and report any symptoms.

Speaking to reporters alongside boyfriend Ted Wilbur outside her two-story clapboard house in the small town of Fort Kent along the Canadian border, Hickox said she would comply."

Don

Oct 31, 2014
11:10pm

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The CDC online-factsheet informing citizens that Ebola could be spread by a sneeze has been modified.

Great News
Apparently the virus has mutated.
It seems on Wednesday 29 October one could be infected with Ebola from a sneeze. But today one cannot be infected by a sneeze.

"The [original] poster prompted Dr. Meryl Nass, of the Institute for Public Accuracy in Washington, DC., to charge that the agency was sending mixed messages.
'The CDC said it doesn’t spread at all by air, then they came out with this poster,' she said. 'They admit that these particles or droplets may land on objects such as doorknobs and that Ebola can be transmitted that way.'
Asked Thursday why the poster was pulled, Nass replied, 'I think they probably didn’t like the story in The Post!' ”
Details from The New York Post

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