Election 2016 - Tax Plan Calculator

Oh my.


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Come on Libs, we all know that you don't care when your candidates lie to gain votes. In fact, you expect the lies, and worse yet, you demand the lies
According to Politifact, which DonDiego and jatki apparently think is a reliable source, the Democrats are much more honest than the Republicans. Especially Hillary!




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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: jatki99

Merit? Seriously? These are campaign "promises", nuttin' more. To actually put a label of "merit" on them is extremely misleading. I'm old enough to know, what they're saying on the stump is only, and only, to appeal to the largest voter segment. HC is a perfectionist in this dept. I do believe everything Bernie says and to some extent Trump.


Seriously! For reals!

Believe it or not, Jatki, some people actually pay attention to the policy that politicians build their platform on. Thats sorta the whole point of them having a debate. I understand this may be limited to Democrats as Republican debates are more centered around insults than ideas. And maybe that's why Democrats put forward tax plans that don't blow up the debt by 20 trillion dollars. But its a free country - vote for whomever you please.


Oh I agree 100%, the policy's" they stump on should be the most important thing when deciding who to support, however the most important thing is to decide what who is blowing hot air. HC leads this category by far, she will say anything to whoever is listening and say what they want to hear. Cruz isn't close but not far behind her.

I think Bernie is the most honest in what he says with Trump close. They actually mean what they say, not just pandering to whoever's listening and which way the wind is blowing. I feel I can see it pretty plainly, how many others can?
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Originally posted by: forkushV
jatki, it's good to know you rely on Politifact as a reliable source. Because according to their stats, just about the most honest politician running for president is Hillary Clinton.




Did I quote Politifact? If so, don't recall. Regardless, that is THEE biggest BS chart ever. I know and more than half the country knows HC is probably the most dishonest person ever to run.


WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans appear to be suspicious of Hillary Rodham Clinton's honesty, and even many Democrats are only lukewarm about her presidential candidacy, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.

Clinton's struggles to explain her email practices while in government, along with questions about the Clinton Foundation and Republican criticism of her openness, wealth and trustworthiness seem to have struck a nerve in the public's perception of the dominant Democratic figure in the 2016 campaign. In the survey, 61 percent said "honest" describes her only slightly well or not at all.

Nearly four in 10 Democrats, and more than six in 10 independents agreed that "honest" was not the best word for her.

Her use of a private email account run from a server kept at her New York home while serving as secretary of state has fed perceptions that she had things to hide. And questions are swirling about foreign donations to the family's charitable foundation and whether that money influenced her work at the State Department.

James Robins, an independent voter from North Carolina, says his generally positive opinion of Clinton has shifted over the past few months, as more details have emerged about her email usage and foundation fundraising practices.

"She and her family think they're above everything," he said. "She intentionally destroyed all the evidence on that server. And when you look at some of her other stuff recently it's equally as bad."


HONEST!? If you actually believe that, it only goes to reinforce that you are biased with your head in the sand about anything left/democratic. Trust me, I'm not surprised just pointing it out

Oh, and if you want to bitch about the sorce, feel free to google HC honesty with the American population. It ain't hard..

Forgot the site again, I keep doing that.

https://www.businessinsider.com/poll-voters-dont-trust-hillary-clinton-2015-5
And yet she trounces donald in every legit poll. Go figure.

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Originally posted by: billryan
And yet she trounces donald in every legit poll. Go figure.



I know. Not sure about trouncing but yea, go figure.
Some folks are saying having donald on the ticket may give the Democrats the House, as well as the Senate. I'll be surprised if they win the House, but they very well may cut the margin in half or more.
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