Fake passports (really)

..and the Govt. believes it can successfully authenticate each and every refugee they'll allow in the country. I'm pretty positive the IS can afford to cough up for some authentic passports for the men it's going to be sneaking in here.

U.S. Agents in Greece Expose Syrian Who Sold Passports Thinking They Were for ISIS

by Richard Engel and Aggelos Petropoulos

"ATHENS — An NBC News investigation has uncovered that a Greece-based document forger — who sold American passports to a U.S. agent after being told they were meant for ISIS — will not be extradited to America anytime soon, since he was not promptly arrested despite a nine-month-long investigation by the Department of Homeland Security.

Speaking to NBC News from inside a Greek prison, Haytham Koubash denied that he forged the passports himself but acknowledged facilitating the sale.

"It's my work," he said, "I don't ask anybody for who or what they want to do with the passports."

For U.S. authorities, it all began in October 2014 when, according to a federal agent's sworn affidavit, DHS investigators received a tip from two informants who claimed that the 46-year-old Syrian, Koubash, was selling doctored American and European passports in Athens.

During recorded telephone conversations with the informants, the agent says in the affidavit, Koubash agreed to sell. A passport — later proved to be a legitimate U.S. passport reported stolen in Athens a few weeks earlier — was delivered to the agents for $5000 by mid-December 2014.

It was time to up the ante: in subsequent calls the agents had the informants tell Koubash they need more passports, this time for ISIS.
During the meeting, according to the same affidavit, a U.S. agent provided four passport photographs of what he explained to be members of ISIS and a deposit of 5000 euros (about $5,500). Koubash asked for some time.

"About one week to five days," Koubash explained to NBC News, is the time needed in Athens to acquire a stolen U.S. passport and have its photo altered.

He also said U.S. passports are on the lower end of the market with their price ranging from 250 to 350 euros, as they are not for everyone: A perspective buyer needs to have a good American accent to get away with them.





Five days later, Koubash met the agent again, this time in front of Greece's parliament. The surveillance stills obtained by NBC News show him wearing a red shirt while, according to court documents, he delivered four doctored U.S. passports.

"Do you know, these passports are for ISIS," Koubash says the agent asked him not once, but three times during a 20-minute conversation. He subsequently received 5000 euros as final payment and walked away from the meeting.

According to legal documents obtained by NBC News, the U.S. authorities were planning to have Koubash arrested at a third meeting that never happened. Not knowing this, a separate law enforcement agency in Athens, the Immigration Directorate of the Greek police, was already tailing him..."


https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/u-s-agents-greece-expose-syrian-who-sold-passports-thinking-n477421


I've read and seen this also about Syrian cities thatw ere captured and had govt passport offices.

ISIS May Be Printing Syrian Passports With Seized Machine


The Islamic State may have seized passport printing machines and several thousand blank passports in Syria and Iraq.

"Islamic State operatives with real Syrian passports printed by the group may have been able to infiltrate the U.S. or Europe, American authorities warned.

ISIS captured a passport office in Deir ez-Zour and another in Raqqa last summer, and is believed to have seized a passport making machine and thousands of ready-to-print blank passports.

“Since more than 17 months [have] passed since Raqqa and Deir ez-Zour fell to ISIS, it is possible that individuals from Syria with passports ‘issued’ in these ISIS controlled cities or who had passport blanks, may have traveled to the U.S,” read the Homeland Security Investigations Intelligence Report.

The report also noted “fake Syrian passports are so prevalent in Syria that Syrians do not even view possessing them as illegal,” and can be obtained for $200 to $400..."
https://www.clarionproject.org/news/isis-may-be-printing-syrian-passports-seized-machine-0



Come on guys - there is no need to slow down refugees or immigration, the JV team is contained so what difference does it make?
Obama gave a handy little speech today telling us all of the things that he's been doing to kill ISIS. What he doesn't tell us is why ISIS is still growing rapidly. He's playing successfully to the "low information voter".

Odds on whom PJ tries to deflect with-

Trump- +250
Cruz +300
Bush Jr. +450
Rumsfeld +600
Romney +800
Clive Bundy +1500
Al Bundy +5000
I'm taking a vacation from the Right-Wing-Circle-jerk on this board, Zimbo. But don't let me stop you. I bet some of the other guys will let you touch them too !
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I'm taking a vacation from the Right-Wing-Circle-jerk on this board, Zimbo. But don't let me stop you. I bet some of the other guys will let you touch them too !


I know you said you were taking a break, as I mentioned before I wish you wouldn't. Your post's are intelligent but also provide balance around here. Did you get tired of trying to defend an an admin. that is getting more and more impossible to defend?, people who are becoming impossible to defend? I know it's much easier to find the things wrong with this country and not a helluva that's going right or well. All in all, it would be better if you at least joined part time.
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I'm taking a vacation from the Right-Wing-Circle-jerk on this board, Zimbo. But don't let me stop you. I bet some of the other guys will let you touch them too !


I forgot to add-

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
I'm taking a vacation from the Right-Wing-Circle-jerk on this board, Zimbo. But don't let me stop you. I bet some of the other guys will let you touch them too !


I know you said you were taking a break, as I mentioned before I wish you wouldn't. Your post's are intelligent but also provide balance around here. Did you get tired of trying to defend an an admin. that is getting more and more impossible to defend?, people who are becoming impossible to defend? I know it's much easier to find the things wrong with this country and not a helluva that's going right or well. All in all, it would be better if you at least joined part time.


Happy Holidays, Jatki.

Truth be told - I'm bored exchanging statistics, reputable journalism, and basic historical facts with people who counter with something they either (a) get from a propaganda/conspiracy website, or (b) flat out make up.....And then demand I prove their post wrong. (not an indictment of this thread)

Its a free country. People can post whatever they want. People can believe whatever they want. People can get their information from any source they choose. But I think I prefer to debate politics with people who don't get information from The Federalist, or Judicial Watch, or James O'Keefe videos, or the Washington Times, or whatever source told Hoops that Syrian refugees attacked Paris. There is plenty of history, statistics, and reputable journalism that make an intelligent perspective for conservatives to reference. But for some reason our resident right wingers prefer to debate the merits of the Fake Moon Landing conspiracy instead. While that can be entertaining to engage - I find the entertainment options on Netflix to be better




Pj's idea of quoting facts is to recycle whatever spin Obama and Clinton is saying on any given day.

Remember when he said that there was a 50,000 person waiting list for electric cars?

As the self proclaimed obamacare expert he said that the premiums would go down - they have gone up.
He said the that emergency room visits would go down - they have gone up
He said that the exchanges would be a success. More than half are bankrupt

More recently he said female immigrants were not a threat. - wrong again
The govt will thoroughly vet the immigrants - they don't
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