FBI expands probe of Hillary's email?

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Originally posted by: jphelan
If you are calling me a bigot, you are sadly mistaken.

Name calling is something children do in school when they feel they are somehow inferior. Some thing never change.


Didn't mention your name now did I? There are several reasons to call people names, one of them it being the truth. To some members of this board names like bigot, racist, clueless or uninformed very much apply...
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Maybe they should give Ken Starr another $75 million to look into it. That turned out well.


Oh yea, a complete waste of taxpayer money to investigate an apparent and blatant case of corruption.

No corruption? See below for number of convictions. I would love to see any type of defense, any type at all, to hear how any of these folks weren't found guilty. An injustice in the legal system? Can't wait to hear your non-response.

The specifics and link.

Whitewater;Bill Clinton had known Arkansas businessman and political figure Jim McDougal since 1968, and had made a previous small real estate investment with him in 1977.[9] Clinton and Hillary Rodham were seeking ways of supplementing his salary of $26,500 as Arkansas Attorney General (which would rise to $35,000 if his campaign for Governor of Arkansas succeeded) and hers of $24,500 as Rose Law Firm associate.[10][11] It was around this time that Rodham also began trading cattle futures.[9]

In spring of 1978, McDougal proposed that Clinton and Rodham join him and his wife Susan in buying 230 acres (0.93 km2) of undeveloped land along the south bank of the White River near Flippin, Arkansas, in the Ozark Mountains. The goal was to subdivide the site into lots for vacation homes, intended for the many people coming south from Chicago and Detroit who were interested in low property taxes, fishing, rafting, and mountain scenery. The plan was to hold the property for a few years and then sell the lots at a profit.[9]

The four borrowed $203,000 to buy land, and subsequently transferred ownership of the land to the newly created Whitewater Development Corporation, in which all four participants had equal shares;[9] Susan McDougal chose[12] the name "Whitewater Estates";[13] their sales pitch was, "One weekend here and you'll never want to live anywhere else."[11] The business was incorporated on June 18, 1979.

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Removal of documents[edit]

Within hours of the death of Vince Foster in July 1993, chief White House counsel Bernard Nussbaum removed documents, some of them concerning the Whitewater Development Corporation, from Foster's office and gave them to Maggie Williams, Chief of Staff to the First Lady. According to the New York Times, Williams placed them in a safe in the White House for five days before turning them over to their personal lawyer.[25]"

The number of convictions is fairly telling also

Ultimately the Clintons were never charged, but 15 other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Bill Clinton's successor as Governor, who was removed from office.[44]
Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

Or will you ignore this also? As each day passes forkie your arguments are being exposed as lame, misleading and completely untrue, not to mention fairly humorous.

BTW How many people have been killed(not shot) by a 30 mag holder lately?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy#Convictions
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Maybe they should give Ken Starr another $75 million to look into it. That turned out well.


Oh yea, a complete waste of taxpayer money to investigate an apparent and blatant case of corruption...
$75 million on a small time land development deal gone bad? That could have been handled by a local prosecutor? That turned up nothing on the Clintons? Yeah, I'd say that was a tad wasteful.

With most politicians, I'd bet a $75 million dollar investigation by their political enemies would turn up lots of dirt. With Hillary Clinton, they came up with nothing, huh?

Interesting report on some of those classified emails on Hilliary's server:

linky

Forkie may want to do a bit of research on what happens to folks that disclose Top Secret SAP information.

Btw, if you think it's no big deal....

If Hilliary walks, there will be countless lawsuits from convicted spys seeking their freedom as Hilliary got away with it and they were punished for years in federal prision.
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Maybe they should give Ken Starr another $75 million to look into it. That turned out well.


Oh yea, a complete waste of taxpayer money to investigate an apparent and blatant case of corruption.

No corruption? See below for number of convictions. I would love to see any type of defense, any type at all, to hear how any of these folks weren't found guilty. An injustice in the legal system? Can't wait to hear your non-response.

The specifics and link.

Whitewater;Bill Clinton had known Arkansas businessman and political figure Jim McDougal since 1968, and had made a previous small real estate investment with him in 1977.[9] Clinton and Hillary Rodham were seeking ways of supplementing his salary of $26,500 as Arkansas Attorney General (which would rise to $35,000 if his campaign for Governor of Arkansas succeeded) and hers of $24,500 as Rose Law Firm associate.[10][11] It was around this time that Rodham also began trading cattle futures.[9]

In spring of 1978, McDougal proposed that Clinton and Rodham join him and his wife Susan in buying 230 acres (0.93 km2) of undeveloped land along the south bank of the White River near Flippin, Arkansas, in the Ozark Mountains. The goal was to subdivide the site into lots for vacation homes, intended for the many people coming south from Chicago and Detroit who were interested in low property taxes, fishing, rafting, and mountain scenery. The plan was to hold the property for a few years and then sell the lots at a profit.[9]

The four borrowed $203,000 to buy land, and subsequently transferred ownership of the land to the newly created Whitewater Development Corporation, in which all four participants had equal shares;[9] Susan McDougal chose[12] the name "Whitewater Estates";[13] their sales pitch was, "One weekend here and you'll never want to live anywhere else."[11] The business was incorporated on June 18, 1979.

"
Removal of documents[edit]

Within hours of the death of Vince Foster in July 1993, chief White House counsel Bernard Nussbaum removed documents, some of them concerning the Whitewater Development Corporation, from Foster's office and gave them to Maggie Williams, Chief of Staff to the First Lady. According to the New York Times, Williams placed them in a safe in the White House for five days before turning them over to their personal lawyer.[25]"

The number of convictions is fairly telling also

Ultimately the Clintons were never charged, but 15 other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Bill Clinton's successor as Governor, who was removed from office.[44]
Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)
John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)
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Or will you ignore this also? As each day passes forkie your arguments are being exposed as lame, misleading and completely untrue, not to mention fairly humorous.

BTW How many people have been killed(not shot) by a 30 mag holder lately?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_controversy#Convictions



What did we, the american taxpayer, get for our $75 million? Did Ken Starr bring any of those people to justice, or were they charged in Arkansas by local prosecutors?

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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Mushy complains about the source, yet doesn't explain what things he disagrees with...
Which means that you are only semi-literate, Boilerman. I mean that literally, not figuratively, and it's not at all an exaggeration. It's not even meant that much as an insult - it's just true.

A major part of modern day literacy is to evaluate the source of information. If the source isn't credible or respected, you can stop reading right then. Calling for someone to refute 9/11 Truthers, Birthers, NAMBLA, Code Pink, or claims by General Jack Ripper is just absurd. No literate person believes them in the first place.

And the radical Ron Paul Institute is not a credible source. Of course you don't care about that, do you Boilerman? If it matches your pre-existing beliefs, you believe it, no questions asked.
[...] What of that poster went even further and tried to discredit the original source by claiming one of its' articles was "obamas first gay president" and completely misrepresented such articles?...
This may be the dumbest thing you've said yet, which is saying a lot.

I "completely misrepresented" the article in question by - get this - posting a screenshot of THEIR headline. I didn't even comment on the story itself. Some misrepresenting, huh jatki?


What a joke, you're correct, the headline is ALL you posted with no reference to the actual content, saying why this was such a crap source, but that's beside the point really. You were dismissing Grudens (an architect of the ACA)claim calling the American public "stupid".

Funny, you get caught lying or cases of total BS and you completely try and weasel your way out of it.

BTW How many .30 rd magazine deaths have you read about lately? Lot more deadly if one actually loads them, BUT,deadlier still if they are put in a gun.

never mind
Now Hillary is attacking the intelligence community. Sign of desperation? or is the FBI really on a witch hunt?

Hillary Clinton Accused Again of Handling Top Secret Info Through Private Email

"There are fresh allegations from the intelligence community that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was handling some of the most closely held intelligence secrets available through her private email.

According to a newly revealed letter sent from the Intelligence Community's Inspector General to members of Congress on Jan. 14, "several dozen" of Clinton's emails contained "CONFIDENTIAL, SECRET and TOP SECRET/SAP" information. It wasn't clear how many of those were TOP SECRET/SAP.

SAP is code for Special Access Programs and is said to contain highly secretive intelligence related to the sensitive military programs, capabilities and operations. The existence of the letter was first reported by Fox News..."

"..Clinton's campaign responded by attacking the Intelligence Community directly.

"This is the same interagency dispute that has been playing out for months, and it does not change the fact that these emails were not classified at the time they were sent or received," campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said in a statement to ABC News.."

https://gma.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-accused-again-handling-top-secret-private-015333850--abc-news-topstories.html

Well, she probably is too big to jail but still I cracked a smile at this.

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