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pjstroh

Jan 19, 2015
2:22am

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

1. Exactly what accusations do you think I have made?
If it's anything other than The Majority of NYPD think De Blasio has helped create a bad work environment and that is a problem and the Mayor needs to fix it...then I'm sorry.

You made this accusation on this thread :

"Really? They elected him to develop such a venomous and hostile working relationship with NYPD? "

You weren't offering a solution to a problem. You made an accusation - a baseless accusation that you have not been able to back up with any quotes or policy since you made it. Your Welcome.

No need to apologize to me. Feel free to send an apology to the mayor of NY. I'm sure there is a contact address on the city's website.

hoops2

Jan 19, 2015
2:56am

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"Exactly what accusations do you think I have made"

That the NYPD is racist

alanleroy

Jan 19, 2015
4:04am

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

1. Exactly what accusations do you think I have made?
If it's anything other than The Majority of NYPD think De Blasio has helped create a bad work environment and that is a problem and the Mayor needs to fix it...then I'm sorry.

Was there a venomous and hostile working relationship between the Mayor's office and NYPD before the current mayor?
Is there one now?
Is this what the people elected the mayor to do?
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
No need to apologize to you at all. Note I did not accuse the Mayor of anything except responsibility for the end result...because as Mayor that's called 'being held accountable'...He needs to man up and be a real leader and fix this dysfunctional relationship...because that's what real leaders do.. That's what I've been claiming all along.

Now if you want to talk about other shit like how many Republicans believe the President is a Kenyan, that's your problem. I'm no Republican...but if 94% of the people came to believe the President is a Kenyan, then that would be a problem too. Wake me when that happens and we can debate it then.

alanleroy

Jan 19, 2015
5:36am

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Exactly what accusations do you think I have made"

That the NYPD is racist

Are you talking to me? When did I make that accusation? Man, I was trying to be accusation free...except for accusing New York City's leadership of not doing a good job of leading.

malibber2

Jan 19, 2015
8:52am

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malibber wonders how Mr. Alanleroy perceives the actions of the Republican party leadership that appoints a self described "David Duke without the baggage" to Majority whip. I thought this was an appropriate question on the Martin Luther King Holiday especially given that Steve Scalise voted against that holiday twice. Does Mr. Alanleroy view this action as provocative?

BobOrme

Jan 19, 2015
11:44am

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Originally posted by: pjstroh

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

1. Exactly what accusations do you think I have made?
If it's anything other than The Majority of NYPD think De Blasio has helped create a bad work environment and that is a problem and the Mayor needs to fix it...then I'm sorry.

The baseless accusations in NYC are that the death of Eric Garner was due to the racism of the officers of the NYPD. All of them. DeBlasio could have said or done something to counter the violent rhetoric fueling those beliefs that resulted in not only the protests lead by professional race baiters, but the assassination of two NYPD officers who were guilty of doing nothing more than sitting in their squad car.

Boilerman

Jan 19, 2015
9:33pm

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PJ of course is correct, and all of the NYPD cops are wrong.

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
Alanleroy hasn't posted anything new. He continues to point to perception instead of truth. Several times in this thread he has accused the mayor of NY of engaging the police with a venomous level of vitriol. Of course, he cant back that up by posting any of that alleged vitriol....he simply rests his case on perception. Thoughtful readers can see my previous post explaining the difference between "truth" and "perception". Clearly AlanLeroy isn't interested in truth. Its a free country.

There are two very angry groups of people in NYC right now: the cops and the general community. AlanLeroy is right the mayor is looking to find ways of alleviating the bad blood on both sides. Its not an easy job and I wish him good luck.

But ultimately The mayor is elected to serve the community. That is his top priority. I'm happy to disagree with AlanLeroy the mayor should have been publicly silent about the platform he was specifically elected to enact - especially in the wake of an untried video-taped police killing the overwhelming majority of the community believes demonstrated unnecessary force. One can only speculate what the community's anger would have been if the mayor publicly ignored that incident. His top priority was talking to his constituents....and anyone who believes in transparent government would agree. If there are cops that are pissed about it - too bad. Much like AlanLeroy they cant point to anything specific thing the mayor said that was anti-police...they are just mad he is confronting the racist law enforcement practices that plagued the NYPD for years under Michael Bloomberg. Their hurt feelings are a secondary priority to the feelings of the public. And they are not helping their own cause by NOT doing their job now. They may regret their actions if falling revenues from citations result in layoffs.

hoops2

Jan 19, 2015
10:07pm

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Originally posted by: alanleroy

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Originally posted by: hoops2
"Exactly what accusations do you think I have made"

That the NYPD is racist

Are you talking to me? When did I make that accusation? Man, I was trying to be accusation free...except for accusing New York City's leadership of not doing a good job of leading.

I think i got my quotes mixed up and I did not intend on accusing Alan

alanleroy

Jan 19, 2015
10:27pm

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Originally posted by: malibber2
malibber wonders how Mr. Alanleroy perceives the actions of the Republican party leadership that appoints a self described "David Duke without the baggage" to Majority whip. I thought this was an appropriate question on the Martin Luther King Holiday especially given that Steve Scalise voted against that holiday twice. Does Mr. Alanleroy view this action as provocative?

Apparently I'm not as obsessed with Republican Party Politics as Mr. Malibber as I have no clue who Steve Scalise is or what he really stands for. For the record, I am opposed to any additional Federal Holidays and support eliminating both Labor Day and Columbus Day.

Don

Jan 20, 2015
12:36am

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
I am opposed to any additional Federal Holidays and support eliminating both Labor Day and Columbus Day.

DonDiego would favor the establishment of a total of 12 Federal Holidays, . . . one every month to provide a day of rest each month.

To begin, America needs a holiday sometime in early-to-mid April to provide America's ever-dwindling workforce respite over the nearly 3-month gap between Washington's Birthday and Memorial Day, . . . maybe Leonardo daVinci's Birthday on 15 April or Civil War Armistice Day on 9 April.
Similarly the gap between Independence Day and Labor Day requires an early August holiday, perhaps Herbert Hoover day on August 10th.

Longer term, . . . maybe a total overhaul so as to ensure 12 more equally-spaced - 30 or 31 days - holidays.
Or, perhaps, a series of holidays based upon periodic astronomical events, like a day-off on every Full Moon, . . . given that the citizens' spirits and interest in knowing, or even caring, about real historical events is dwindling, . . . and someone is gonna find fault or feel left out with any new set of holidays. e.g. Someone's gonna want every New Moon so's they can celebrate in the dark.

[n.b. Actually DonDiego has little interest in holidays any more. Every day is one of relaxation and recreation for him. He is solely concerned with the well-being of others with regard to holidays.]

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