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Ferguson Grand Juror Sues Prosecutor

Don
Don
Jan 8, 2015
1:20am
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
If I were advising a young black friend, I would explain that a high percentage of crime is committed by black men, and for this reason cops look at blacks with a suspicious eye.........it's human nature. This nature also helps cops cut down on crime within the black community keeping the good people safer.

If DonDiego were advising a young black friend he'd advise him to dress like Steven Quincy Urkel, . . . so as to avoid police suspicion.

hoops2
hoops2
Jan 8, 2015
1:30am
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"We dont have to speculate. Stop-and-frisk has been out since 2012"

Actually it has been less than a year
Boilerman
Boilerman
Jan 8, 2015
1:33am
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That would be good advice.


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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
If I were advising a young black friend, I would explain that a high percentage of crime is committed by black men, and for this reason cops look at blacks with a suspicious eye.........it's human nature. This nature also helps cops cut down on crime within the black community keeping the good people safer.

If DonDiego were advising a young black friend he'd advise him to dress like Steven Quincy Urkel, . . . so as to avoid police suspicion.



jatki
jatki
Jan 8, 2015
2:38am
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Stop and frisk. I hear the bitching that it was racial profiling, but I wonder if it wasn't so much profiling thugs and with the greater majority of.....oh never mind.

jatki
jatki
Jan 8, 2015
2:43am
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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The Grand Juror is suing for the right to speak and says the prosecutor is misrepresenting how the grand jury felt about the case and that the prosecutor conducted the proceeding differently than all the other Grand Jury proceedings they participated in.

This comes on the heels of finding out the prosecutor put on a witness that favored the police officer's version of events that he knew was lying and that it wasn't even possible for them to have witnessed the event they were testifying they witnessed. So for all of you that said a prosecutor shouldn't put on a witness that was lying this one did and did so to torpedo a case that he was supposed to be prosecuting on behalf the State.


Sorry to nitpick at this late in the thread, BUT.... Mal,in a previous thread on the grand jury, you argued up and down that the prosecutor MUST put on every single person, regardless if he was telling the truth or not.


^my bold

hoops2
hoops2
Jan 8, 2015
2:45am
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In 2014 shooting victims increased by 7.2% over 2013. Stop, question & frisk was used as a deterrant to shootings
Boilerman
Boilerman
Jan 8, 2015
12:16pm
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Don't consider yourself with the truth, Hoops. It's far more important to be politically correct.


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Originally posted by: hoops2
In 2014 shooting victims increased by 7.2% over 2013. Stop, question & frisk was used as a deterrant to shootings


MIKEY7777
MIKEY7777
Jan 8, 2015
8:40pm
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Every cops goal is to kill a black person, and make the rest of his life a misery. Thats liberal thinking. Liberals have a new "war" on cops. 75 percent of us would have killed that thug, the other 25 percent would be dead, period!
alanleroy
alanleroy
Jan 8, 2015
10:10pm
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I think they are woefully misguided. Equating opposition to a stop and frisk policy to creating a hostile environment for police is ridiculous. If anything the misdeeds of the past is what created a hostile environment.

IMO any government organization that gets angry when their policies and procedures are questioned and says to oppose their methods is akin to advocating for murder is an organization that is overdue for a good top to bottom house cleaning.

So you really think the only reason many members of the NYPD are turning their backs on the mayor is his 'opposition to a stop and frisk policy'? It's a lot deeper than that, my friend.

They perceive ongoing and continual disrespect and attacks from the Mayor's office that includes implications that they (not their policies) are racist and fascist. They witness the Mayor protesting against the Grand Jury decision. They witness the mayor not rebuking the 'What do we want...dead cops' protestors. They see some of the mayor's close associates and appointees with histories of anti-police attacks and rhetoric. They see the Mayor as an adversary and not an advocate or CEO who wants to work with all parties to implement change for the betterment of New York City. The department is clearly demoralized and the buck for that always stops at the top.

Does De Blasio have 'blood on his hands' for the assassination of those two officers. Of course not. The only one responsible for that is the crazy man who shot them. Has he botched the handling of relations between the police force and the community at large in the wake of the Grand Jury Decision and Police Assassinations? Was there a better way to reform the NYPD than constant public attacks to score political points? That's plainly obvious, isn't it?

malibber2
malibber2
Jan 8, 2015
10:39pm
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I would ask Mr. Alan Leroy to cite specific quotes from Mr. De Blasio or an actual new article (rather than an editorial) describing the behavior of Mr. De Blasio that Alan Leroy finds to be provocative.

It seems to me the only folks that are engaging in provocation are the police officers who choose to use their slain co-workers funerals as a vehicle to try and provoke the mayor.


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I think they are woefully misguided. Equating opposition to a stop and frisk policy to creating a hostile environment for police is ridiculous. If anything the misdeeds of the past is what created a hostile environment.

IMO any government organization that gets angry when their policies and procedures are questioned and says to oppose their methods is akin to advocating for murder is an organization that is overdue for a good top to bottom house cleaning.

So you really think the only reason many members of the NYPD are turning their backs on the mayor is his 'opposition to a stop and frisk policy'? It's a lot deeper than that, my friend.

They perceive ongoing and continual disrespect and attacks from the Mayor's office that includes implications that they (not their policies) are racist and fascist. They witness the Mayor protesting against the Grand Jury decision. They witness the mayor not rebuking the 'What do we want...dead cops' protestors. They see some of the mayor's close associates and appointees with histories of anti-police attacks and rhetoric. They see the Mayor as an adversary and not an advocate or CEO who wants to work with all parties to implement change for the betterment of New York City. The department is clearly demoralized and the buck for that always stops at the top.

Does De Blasio have 'blood on his hands' for the assassination of those two officers. Of course not. The only one responsible for that is the crazy man who shot them. Has he botched the handling of relations between the police force and the community at large in the wake of the Grand Jury Decision and Police Assassinations? Was there a better way to reform the NYPD than constant public attacks to score political points? That's plainly obvious, isn't it?


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