Harrah's Total Reward question.

Daily average is KING! Playing low WILL hurt your offers.

Daily average determines how much free play you get, how much your gift card offers are for, whether or not you get the tournament and other event offers on weekends or just weekday offers, as well as whether or not you can get weekend room comps or just weekday room comps.

My host at Harrah's Las Vegas used to print out all of the upcoming offers for me and each of them actually had a figure by it -- that figure was the daily average theo amount necessary to qualify for that particular offer.

Money -- I don't know where you get the idea that just achieving diamond status entitles you to so many free room nights per month, but it doesn't work that way. If you're a diamond player with a really low daily average it's possible that you won't get anything beyond the Summerfest and Winterfest tournament offers (a stated benefit of diamond level).

Seven Stars players ARE entitled to free nights whenever they want with 48 hours notice (a stated benefit).

Please don't give out information that can totally screw over the smaller player. Actually that information could totally screw over the bigger player, too. Playing small here and there when you're a big player could mean the difference between a $1200 gift card and a $2500 gift card!

Many players watch their daily average very carefully. Plenty of couples designate one of the couples cards as the primary play card and do all of their bigger play on that card. When there comes a day when you plan to only play low you use the other spouses card so as to NOT ruin your daily average, but still bank the comps. If you don't have a spouses card to use then it's best to just not play if you're not going to put in a full days play. It's as simple as that if you want to get the best offers possible.
Mare, Well stated and I'm not debating anything you have said. My question is this - Does the OP checking in to the Hotel on a comp using a players card and then never playing with it at all on the comped stay have any adverse effect? If so, better to play small? or not at all?

Lion
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Originally posted by: thlf
As far as using your card a minimal amount goes, it does reduce your average and it does affect your comps. Not so much in free rooms, but much more so in free play and free food coupons. At one time I was getting 30 bucks a week in free play and 100 bucks a month in free food. I got a room for my dad one night and therefore my card wasn't used much and my free play dropped to 5 bucks for the month and the food went to zero for the month. I have since stayed several times and racked up considerable points and a decent average. I am only back up to 5 bucks a week free play and still zero in food coupons.



Harrahs AC seems to have dropped their cash and food offerings across the board. A good friend I travel with went from $50 every two weeks in each of the three AC boardwalk casinos to $15 a month over the last year. He's Diamond and earns about 1,000 points a trip. My offers dropped to almost nothing from AC.

Lion -- there WAS a time when you could use just a comped room at a Harrah's property and not play and not get tripped, but that is no longer the case. If you take ANY offer now (online room comp, room offer, event offer) you'd better play or you will definitely show a NO play trip. Playing low looks better than not playing at all (low trip as opposed to stiffing them), but both will hurt your daily average.

Bottom line -- if it matters to you what your future offers are you need to play at your normal level. If it doesn't matter to you, low play or stiff away. Your offers will go down or eventually stop.

I wasnt clear in my post above. Free room offers are not that sensitive to your play average, but yes other offers will be affected, which is why I suggested in the above post to keep using your card even on "light days." As I wrote above: "But why wouldnt you use your card even for small play? Each play gives you additional tier points, comps, etc so why not get them?"

But I stand by my statement about overall offers not being adversely affected by a light day or two.
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Originally posted by: justmare
Lion -- there WAS a time when you could use just a comped room at a Harrah's property and not play and not get tripped, but that is no longer the case. If you take ANY offer now (online room comp, room offer, event offer) you'd better play or you will definitely show a NO play trip. Playing low looks better than not playing at all (low trip as opposed to stiffing them), but both will hurt your daily average.

Bottom line -- if it matters to you what your future offers are you need to play at your normal level. If it doesn't matter to you, low play or stiff away. Your offers will go down or eventually stop.



Last year, I earned somewhere around 800 Tier credits, but hit Harrahs for over twenty free nites. My offers for cash dropped from the $15-$25 range to the $5-$10 range and what were free buffet offers became BOGO offers, but my free room offers continue. Just got one today for three trips of two nites each for May and early June in AC, any nite but Saturday. My cash offer is $15 free slot play, with an additional $10 on weekends.
I'll agree the offers drop if you stiff or low play, but they don't seem to stop.

Even that statement is wrong, Money. Re-read what I wrote in both my first post and my response to Lion.

And let me add that they look back at the last 6 trips or 18 months, so if you have some light trips or days in there it will DEFINITELY have an effect on your daily average and therefore, your offers.

If you're the person I believe you to be, you should be smarter than the statements you're making.
Billryan summed it up nicely about what really happens. I really wouldnt be too worried about a couple of light days in the course of a year. For heaven's sake, the computer "model" isnt "daily sensitive." Comp levels can easily continue for a half year or longer before an adjustment is made.
Yes, Mare, they look back at the last six trips or 18 months, just as you wrote. But if you have a couple of light days over 6 trips or 18 months it's not going to kill your comps.

If the average trip is 3 days, thats 6 X 3 = 18 days. A couple of light days out of 18 wont mean a thing.
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