Has Obama bothered with visiting southern flood victims?

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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
...And regarding independents...you couldn't be further from the truth. We want the two parties to work together to 'accomplish things'. And we try point out when one or the other is so wrapped up in winning at any cost that they forget the people they are supposed to serve...
And when has that done any good. But at least you get to feel superior to both sides, which is the whole point, isn't it?

You know alanleroy, if you want the Shriners to stop wearing those funny hats, first thing you have to do is actually join the Shriners. Likewise the political parties. Standing on the outside and criticizing like an impotent gadfly accomplishes exactly nothing. (Except making you feel superior - did I mention that?) And speaking of impotent gadfly, if you're ever in need of a new user name, I have a suggestion.


Bullshit that independents accomplish nothing, it's the strictly partisan politicians who get nothing done. Notice the gridlock as of late brainiac?...
The reason for the gridlock is that even though President Obama was elected and re-elected by wide margins, Mississippi and Alabama have just as many US senators as California and New York. And even though Governor Romney only got 47% of the popular vote, he won 52% of the House Congressional districts, proof positive for anyone with basic math skills that the House districts have been gerrymandered in favor of Republicans.

Voters should choose their legislators, and legislators should not be able to choose their voters. A liberal Supreme Court may declare gerrymandering illegal, and then it's over for the GOP in the House of Representatives.
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I'll answer this even though it wasn't directed at me. Unlike Forkie, I am socialist. I think having more socialism and less monopolistic capitalism as we practice it here in the US would be a good thing. However, elections are a compromise. You have to support the candidate that most aligns to your views yet has a realistic chance of winning.

I was concerned about Hillary, and it wasn't because she's too close to Wall Street. It was because I thought she would have a difficult time generating enthusiasm for her campaign, and that there was a good chance she would likely lose as a result of that. Then the Republicans came along and gifted us Donald Trump. The great thing about Trump from a Democratic perspective is he turns out the Democratic base to vote against him, so Hillary doesn't have to generate a lot of enthusiasm.

The next president is likely going to appoint three Supreme Court justices in the next four years. As a Democratic Socialist, this means more to me than any one candidate. This is going to give liberals veto power for the next 50 years over any crackpot conservative idea.
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV

And as far as blinding following leaders, I attended caucuses OPPOSING the establishment Democratic candidate in 2008 and 2016 - Hillary Clinton in both cases. But you knew that, so you were just being dishonest as usual.
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So you were against Hillary before you began blindly supporting her. If you were really honest you'd be supporting Jill Stein. You're both socialists and probably agree on every issue. Hillary is just another crony capitalist supported by Wall street with a D behind her name. But you knew that, so you are just being dishonest with yourself. Your loss....of any integrity.



By the same token, the hill has really brought out the rep vote. I thought I read that new voter sign ups favored republicans by a small margin.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
The reason for the gridlock is that even though President Obama was elected and re-elected by wide margins, Mississippi and Alabama have just as many US senators as California and New York.

Ahh, . . . once again the wisdom of the Founding Fathers saves the Nation.

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