A Health Care System I Won't Miss

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Originally posted by: malibber2
I don't think Obama care is the solution, but for a different reason than most. Those CBO studies also showed the cheapest cost would be some sort of public option like Medicare for all. I think the retention of the private insurance companies is a mistake they serve no purpose in modern health care delivery and the U.S. Government doesn't need to essentially prop up an antiquated system that the rest of the world has abandoned.
You may be right.

One thing I'm certain of, however: whatever problems Obamacare creates, the public will never demand a return to what we have now. Because as that NY Times article demonstrates, the outgoing system is too expensive and doesn't produce results nearly as good as the systems in other industrialized nations.
____________"ObamaCare Arriving on Track One"________________DonDiego Observing______



Oh, . . . and here's a teeny little bunny:




Meanwhile, . . . back at ObamaCare Implementation Headquarters, . . . Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has tweeted the following:
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Kathleen Sebelius @Sebelius

@buzzfeed, in 2014, #Sharknado injuries will be covered as a
pre-existing condition under #Obamacare bit.ly/18dO6JC

12:12 PM Jul 12th_________________________________

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I don't think Obama care is the solution, but for a different reason than most. Those CBO studies also showed the cheapest cost would be some sort of public option like Medicare for all. I think the retention of the private insurance companies is a mistake they serve no purpose in modern health care delivery and the U.S. Government doesn't need to essentially prop up an antiquated system that the rest of the world has abandoned.
You may be right.

One thing I'm certain of, however: whatever problems Obamacare creates, the public will never demand a return to what we have now. Because as that NY Times article demonstrates, the outgoing system is too expensive and doesn't produce results nearly as good as the systems in other industrialized nations.


Obamacare was signed into law over three years ago and not even supporters like you know what it is or what it does. That is blind allegiance to a single politician.

The NYTimes article digs up a circumstance experienced by one individual 6 years ago. ...also likely written in a blind allegiance to a single politician. How many people in other countries came to America to receive medical treatments they couldn't get in a timely manner (or at all) in their own countries due to the government controlled health systems in those countries over the same 6 years? Canada alone could likely produce numbers well into 5 figures of people seeking better healthcare in America than they could get in Canada over the same time frame.



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Originally posted by: BobOrme
The NYTimes article digs up a circumstance experienced by one individual 6 years ago.
If nothing else, I'm glad that this thread has caused someone to read a NYTimes article to BobOrme.

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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I don't think Obama care is the solution, but for a different reason than most. Those CBO studies also showed the cheapest cost would be some sort of public option like Medicare for all. I think the retention of the private insurance companies is a mistake they serve no purpose in modern health care delivery and the U.S. Government doesn't need to essentially prop up an antiquated system that the rest of the world has abandoned.
You may be right.

One thing I'm certain of, however: whatever problems Obamacare creates, the public will never demand a return to what we have now. Because as that NY Times article demonstrates, the outgoing system is too expensive and doesn't produce results nearly as good as the systems in other industrialized nations.


Obamacare was signed into law over three years ago and not even supporters like you know what it is or what it does. That is blind allegiance to a single politician.

The NYTimes article digs up a circumstance experienced by one individual 6 years ago. ...also likely written in a blind allegiance to a single politician. How many people in other countries came to America to receive medical treatments they couldn't get in a timely manner (or at all) in their own countries due to the government controlled health systems in those countries over the same 6 years? Canada alone could likely produce numbers well into 5 figures of people seeking better healthcare in America than they could get in Canada over the same time frame.
BO, you know those prescription drugs you say you can't afford. If you were Canadian, they would be in your medicine cabinet right now.

Face it, you're a turkey who votes for Thanksgiving.
If he is 67 years old, why isn't he on Medicare? I have not heard of Medicare refusing a surgery because of a pre-existing condition.
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
The NYTimes article digs up a circumstance experienced by one individual 6 years ago.
If nothing else, I'm glad that this thread has caused someone to read a NYTimes article to BobOrme.

Typical obfuscation and deflection. Try addressing the points I made.

...and, no one "caused someone to read a NYTimes article to" me. The entire article was not posted. I did read the linked article. At the very bottom of the article, it states that the cost of manufactured replacement hip was $4,000. That would mean that airfare, doctor's fees, operating room charges, crutches, medicine, a hospital room for five days and a week in rehab all only cost $9,600. I don't believe it.

This topic being debated now will soon be the norm as reality sets in.Eventually even the most devout Obama worshipers will have to admit, if only to themselves, the folly known as the Democratic party and the Obama administration. You who have voted for him and his policies will rue the day.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: BobOrme
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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: malibber2
I don't think Obama care is the solution, but for a different reason than most. Those CBO studies also showed the cheapest cost would be some sort of public option like Medicare for all. I think the retention of the private insurance companies is a mistake they serve no purpose in modern health care delivery and the U.S. Government doesn't need to essentially prop up an antiquated system that the rest of the world has abandoned.
You may be right.

One thing I'm certain of, however: whatever problems Obamacare creates, the public will never demand a return to what we have now. Because as that NY Times article demonstrates, the outgoing system is too expensive and doesn't produce results nearly as good as the systems in other industrialized nations.


Obamacare was signed into law over three years ago and not even supporters like you know what it is or what it does. That is blind allegiance to a single politician.

The NYTimes article digs up a circumstance experienced by one individual 6 years ago. ...also likely written in a blind allegiance to a single politician. How many people in other countries came to America to receive medical treatments they couldn't get in a timely manner (or at all) in their own countries due to the government controlled health systems in those countries over the same 6 years? Canada alone could likely produce numbers well into 5 figures of people seeking better healthcare in America than they could get in Canada over the same time frame.
BO, you know those prescription drugs you say you can't afford. If you were Canadian, they would be in your medicine cabinet right now.

Face it, you're a turkey who votes for Thanksgiving.

The Canadian government sets prices for prescription drugs. It doesn't matter to the government what it actually costs to make the drugs. The two drug companies that make my generic antibiotic can only see that they will/are being forced to sell drugs that are very expensive to make at a significant loss. Their only avenue to stay in business is to raise prices on the cheaper drugs.

I suppose I could go back to paying almost $400/month for heath insurance so I could get $5/month prescriptions again. Obamanomics at its best. I didn't vote for the turkey who increased the costs of a very basic heath need for millions of people.
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Originally posted by: dianebec
If he is 67 years old, why isn't he on Medicare? I have not heard of Medicare refusing a surgery because of a pre-existing condition.
The man is currently 67. When he had the surgery in 2007, he was 61 or 62, which made him too young for Medicare, which kicks in at 65.

Yes, Medicare would have been a good option for him, but he didn't have that option was not available to him when he needed this surgery.
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