Hello LVA

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
Apparently, you all missed my statement that I joined this particular forum primarily for fun. Are we having "fun" yet. I'm not!


You just have bad timing. Every few months this site blows up on a Singer debate for a couple of weeks and then calms back down. You just happen to hit in the middle of one of these that looks to (hopefully) be on it's last legs.

Next we can get back to discussing who has the best milkshake.
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland I was furious with a kid named Brian Carington in high-school for punching me in the nose. Then I found out his mother was a heroin addicted prostitute and his father had been in jail 3 times for abusing him both physically and sexually. Guess what, I stopped being mad at the kid. After a little work and sharing my lunch a couple of times we even started to get along. He never became anyone I wanted to hang out with, but the time I took to get to know him has given me lifelong insight I never would have gotten anywhere else.
What was the insight? Share food with bullies? Because they might rape you, otherwise? This was the life lesson?

Please share the relevance of this anecdote; I'm curious. In particular, how is it relevant to the instant discussion about someone who claims to have invented a strategy by which he beat video poker for an absurd amount of money in an absurdly short period of time, which tall tale is reminiscent of another VP player with a similar assumed name?

Is there some analogy I'm missing that links the punching and rape with the lies? Is the sharing of lunch significant? I guess I might be dense or ignorant.

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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland
Does anyone know what ICON formats work for uploading my picture? I used a 3k jpeg and it doesn't display.


Try photobucket and a 150 x 150 format.
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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland I was furious with a kid named Brian Carington in high-school for punching me in the nose. Then I found out his mother was a heroin addicted prostitute and his father had been in jail 3 times for abusing him both physically and sexually. Guess what, I stopped being mad at the kid. After a little work and sharing my lunch a couple of times we even started to get along. He never became anyone I wanted to hang out with, but the time I took to get to know him has given me lifelong insight I never would have gotten anywhere else.
What was the insight? Share food with bullies? Because they might rape you, otherwise? This was the life lesson?

Please share the relevance of this anecdote; I'm curious. In particular, how is it relevant to the instant discussion about someone who claims to have invented a strategy by which he beat video poker for an absurd amount of money in an absurdly short period of time, which tall tale is reminiscent of another VP player with a similar assumed name?

Is there some analogy I'm missing that links the punching and rape with the lies? Is the sharing of lunch significant? I guess I might be dense or ignorant.


The lesson I learned here was that often people are who they are for very valid and sad reasons. I had gotten very mad at Brian for being a bully before I got to know him. Once I understood the reasons behind why he was a bully I could find nothing in my heart but compassion and pity.

It didn't change Brian but it did change my reaction to Brian, as understanding morphed my anger into far less destructive and easier to deal with emotions.

I'll give you another example. My friend Darin always used to become furious at people who cut him off in traffic even to the point of rolling down his window and cursing at them. One day we were on our way to the hospital to say goodbye to a dying friend. It was not a guarantee we would make it in time. He drove like a madman and cut a lot of people off. Several weeks later someone cut him off again and I made the comment, "I wonder if they are on their way to a hospital". Instead of getting mad as he had always done in the past, he whispered, "I hope not, it's a hard thing to go through." He didn't have to fight or control his anger, he simply wasn't mad.

If you can't see how any of this is relevant to out current discussion, it is unlikely I will be able to explain it to you. Empathy and understating are relevant to any and all discussions about everything everywhere. I would have thought that obvious.

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Originally posted by: mrmarcus12LVA

Is there some analogy I'm missing that links the punching and rape with the lies? Is the sharing of lunch significant? I guess I might be dense or ignorant.


I do not think you are dense or ignorant even for a second. I think you have a different way of looking at things, and by extension something to teach me about how other people think. I have found this sort of information very useful in life.
I suspect Singer was abused as a child. I've even told him he should seek help for his problems.

Now that we know there are reasons for his behavior and he has refused treatment can we move on?

The fact is he still pushes a system of lies and takes advantage of unsuspecting people. He is still responsible for his actions just as Money is responsible for advertising them.
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Originally posted by: FrankKneeland The lesson I learned here was that often people are who they are for very valid and sad reasons. I had gotten very mad at Brian for being a bully before I got to know him. Once I understood the reasons behind why he was a bully I could find nothing in my heart but compassion and pity.

It didn't change Brian but it did change my reaction to Brian, as understanding morphed my anger into far less destructive and easier to deal with emotions.
Well, the way I look at life, and according to my life lessons, you stopped being angry AFTER HE STOPPED PUNCHING YOU.

And maybe, just maybe, as the expression goes, you're preaching to the choir.

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Originally posted by: arcimedes
I suspect Singer was abused as a child. I've even told him he should seek help for his problems.

Now that we know there are reasons for his behavior and he has refused treatment can we move on?

The fact is he still pushes a system of lies and takes advantage of unsuspecting people. He is still responsible for his actions just as Money is responsible for advertising them.


Do you have doctorates in psychology, economics, and math? Or did you stay at a Holiday Inn express last night?
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Frank, I have done several video taped interviews with Rob, includng videos with him explaining his "special plays" and his belief that video poker machines may not be random.

From the interviews, it is easy to see that Singer does not challenge the accepted math of the game, and in fact follows the math of the game. However, is some cases (he says 5% or fewer of the hands played) he will violate what is considered to be "accepted strategy" or what he calls the "optimal hand" to take a long shot.

He is not claiming that 2+2=5.

Then could you please explain why he has explicitly stated no one can win playing by the math yet they can win using his system? That is essentially stating that 98 > 100. Slightly different than 2+2=5 but basically the same.

Instead of believing whatever nonsense he fed you in the interviews, you should read what he has actually stated in the past. Many places to look ... but then that would take some actual work on your part. Somehow I doubt you're up for it.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
He does not advocate that players play on machines with lesser paytables, but he makes suggestions for changing traditional strategy when you are on a lesser paytable for certain hands.

Pure BS. Singer has stated many times that a few extra coins for the FH and flush make no difference. I guess he lied to you when he claimed otherwise. What a surprise.

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
There is a side issue -- and that is the personal problems among Singer and others. You are correct Frank, that the personal problems should not get in the way of an objective look at the different kind of betting strategy that Singer sometimes uses.
There is also criticism of his "progressive betting style" but even Singer doesnt use it when he doesnt have to. He frequently uses a "regressive betting style" to conserve and bank the money he's won. There has been too much criticism of his "progressive bets" and his regressive betting style has been totally overlooked by his critics.



Bwah hahahahahahahahaha

Money, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Please explain his "regressive" betting style.

Are you referring to the standard way progressive systems ALL work where you return (regress) to a previous level when losses are recaptured? Sorry Money, that is not a regressive style. That is how progressive systems work, it is inherent in the system.

You did give me a good laugh, however.

"regressive betting style" ... wow, that's funny.
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Originally posted by: jpcos5 Do you have doctorates in psychology, economics, and math?
None of those are required to distinguish between sense and nonsense on this subject.

A person who assumes multiple identities to post vulgarities, etc. on one side of an issue and cheerful praise on the other has obvious personality issues, and is highly unlikely to have made any serious contribution to an accurate understanding of the subject matter.
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