Hillary Clinton

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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Hillary is a proven liar. Why in the World would you care what she says?


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Originally posted by: lowbass
She's in the media all of the time and she's been in politics for years. You might want to catch the upcoming Democrat debates and hear what she has to say. Then you can make up your own mind and vote on who you think would be best to lead this country.

Sorry, meant this as a reply to a post. Forgot to use quote.


She's the leading candidate for President of the United States. We should all care what she says. I actually agree with lowbass. Compare them all and then decide. It's kind of the original intent of the process.
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not yours.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy your "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while you're asking her to participate in your fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course this has nothing to do with the statement you quoted....but what else is new?
Oh dear. I guess at 4:32 PM and 6:34 PM your posts were openly criticizing the lack of debate on the Democratic side, but by your post at 9:00 PM, you were merely making an observation. So tell you what, I'll just change a few words and repost it without quoting you so you don't feel so put upon. I hope that makes you feel better.
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not anyone else's.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy the "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while others here are asking her to participate in a fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Hillary is a proven liar. Why in the World would you care what she says?


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Originally posted by: lowbass
She's in the media all of the time and she's been in politics for years. You might want to catch the upcoming Democrat debates and hear what she has to say. Then you can make up your own mind and vote on who you think would be best to lead this country.

Sorry, meant this as a reply to a post. Forgot to use quote.


She's the leading candidate for President of the United States. We should all care what she says. I actually agree with lowbass. Compare them all and then decide. It's kind of the original intent of the process.
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not yours.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy your "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while you're asking her to participate in your fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course this has nothing to do with the statement you quoted....but what else is new?
Oh dear. I guess at 4:32 PM and 6:34 PM your posts were openly criticizing the lack of debate on the Democratic side, but by your post at 9:00 PM, you were merely making an observation. So tell you what, I'll just change a few words and repost it without quoting you so you don't feel so put upon. I hope that makes you feel better.

That's much better. My post at 9:00 PM was a response to Boilerman who was questioning why we should listen to Hillary because he claims she is a liar. I responded that we should listen because she is a leading candidate for President of the United states and we should listen and compare all the candidates...merely reinforcing the wise words of the poster lowbass. If you took exception to this it would be because you agree with Boilerman that we just shouldn't listen...because Hillary is a liar.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not anyone else's.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy the "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while others here are asking her to participate in a fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course she has the right to dodge exposure and to try to limit debate. Other candidates have to right to use that to their advantage by then claiming she's cowardly and not willing to defend her positions in an open forum. Her strategy could backfire as her competitors take an 'anywhere anytime' approach and she hides in the Nixon Rose Garden. Can you imagine Lincoln backing down from the 7 Douglass debates for fear of a misstep and a drop in the polls? Neither can I....but whatever it takes to win, I guess.


Why would Alanleroy choose to trust anything that Hillary Clinton says?


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not anyone else's.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy the "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while others here are asking her to participate in a fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course she has the right to dodge exposure and to try to limit debate. Other candidates have to right to use that to their advantage by then claiming she's cowardly and not willing to defend her positions in an open forum. Her strategy could backfire as her competitors take an 'anywhere anytime' approach and she hides in the Nixon Rose Garden. Can you imagine Lincoln backing down from the 7 Douglass debates for fear of a misstep and a drop in the polls? Neither can I....but whatever it takes to win, I guess.


I said we should listen to what she says. Trust is another matter entirely. I don't trust most politicians...democratic or republican. I listen to all of them though.

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Why would Alanleroy choose to trust anything that Hillary Clinton says?


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not anyone else's.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy the "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while others here are asking her to participate in a fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course she has the right to dodge exposure and to try to limit debate. Other candidates have to right to use that to their advantage by then claiming she's cowardly and not willing to defend her positions in an open forum. Her strategy could backfire as her competitors take an 'anywhere anytime' approach and she hides in the Nixon Rose Garden. Can you imagine Lincoln backing down from the 7 Douglass debates for fear of a misstep and a drop in the polls? Neither can I....but whatever it takes to win, I guess.



All politicians will say things during a campaign, and do otherwise as dictated by immovable circumstances. In other words, they intended to do certain things, but couldn't. I fully believe that Hillary will say one thing, with full intentions of doing a different thing. Her word holds no value.


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
I said we should listen to what she says. Trust is another matter entirely. I don't trust most politicians...democratic or republican. I listen to all of them though.

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Why would Alanleroy choose to trust anything that Hillary Clinton says?


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not anyone else's.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy the "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while others here are asking her to participate in a fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course she has the right to dodge exposure and to try to limit debate. Other candidates have to right to use that to their advantage by then claiming she's cowardly and not willing to defend her positions in an open forum. Her strategy could backfire as her competitors take an 'anywhere anytime' approach and she hides in the Nixon Rose Garden. Can you imagine Lincoln backing down from the 7 Douglass debates for fear of a misstep and a drop in the polls? Neither can I....but whatever it takes to win, I guess.




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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not anyone else's.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy the "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while others here are asking her to participate in a fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course she has the right to dodge exposure and to try to limit debate. Other candidates have to right to use that to their advantage by then claiming she's cowardly and not willing to defend her positions in an open forum. Her strategy could backfire as her competitors take an 'anywhere anytime' approach and she hides in the Nixon Rose Garden. Can you imagine Lincoln backing down from the 7 Douglass debates for fear of a misstep and a drop in the polls? Neither can I....but whatever it takes to win, I guess.
Ah so limiting time and location of appearances is now "whatever it takes to win." Damn, I always thought it was called politics.
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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Hillary is a proven liar. Why in the World would you care what she says?


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Originally posted by: lowbass
She's in the media all of the time and she's been in politics for years. You might want to catch the upcoming Democrat debates and hear what she has to say. Then you can make up your own mind and vote on who you think would be best to lead this country.

Sorry, meant this as a reply to a post. Forgot to use quote.




Not sure what you claim she lied about, but on the other hand, are you saying that none of the Republican candidates have ever lied?

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
All politicians will say things during a campaign, and do otherwise as dictated by immovable circumstances. In other words, they intended to do certain things, but couldn't. I fully believe that Hillary will say one thing, with full intentions of doing a different thing. Her word holds no value.


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
I said we should listen to what she says. Trust is another matter entirely. I don't trust most politicians...democratic or republican. I listen to all of them though.

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Originally posted by: Boilerman
Why would Alanleroy choose to trust anything that Hillary Clinton says?


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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
As a private citizen, Hillary's only job is to get to 270 electoral votes in about 13 months, which she gets to do on her terms, not anyone else's.

Presidential nominees focusing on only about nine states wasn't the "original intent," but any nominee that doesn't do that is going to lose. Raising millions or now billions of dollars, wasn't the "original intent," but any candidate that doesn't do it is going to lose. And candidates get to defy the "original intent" by limiting their public and press exposure when it is to their advantage. Richard Nixon did that brilliantly with his "Rose Garden Strategy" in 1972.

So Hillary is dealing with today's reality while others here are asking her to participate in a fantasy world. If she stays the course, I like her chances.

Of course she has the right to dodge exposure and to try to limit debate. Other candidates have to right to use that to their advantage by then claiming she's cowardly and not willing to defend her positions in an open forum. Her strategy could backfire as her competitors take an 'anywhere anytime' approach and she hides in the Nixon Rose Garden. Can you imagine Lincoln backing down from the 7 Douglass debates for fear of a misstep and a drop in the polls? Neither can I....but whatever it takes to win, I guess.






They hold no value to you. I personally feel the same way about a majority of the Republican candidates in the field. I think Hillary knows what she must say and do, to get the job done.

I remember a quote that said something like: "No politician would ever get elected if they told you the absolute truth".

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