House suing Obama?


Lost 2 more cases today
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Implementation of federal laws has been delayed by presidential administrations at least fifteen times in the last fifteen years - without Congressional approval.

DonDiego, why is this instance so special?

The Constitution. (But DonDiego hasn't said it is special.)...
Yes you have.
OK, . . . poor old DonDiego did a little research, . . . and forkushV is correct: the President's actions regarding implementation of Laws are, in fact, unprecedented...
If you're saying that you researched the administrative actions of previous administrations to make that claim, I don't believe you.

If you didn't research the administrative actions of previous administrations to make that claim, you simply don't understand what "unprecedented" means.

So which is it?
Pardon me for quoting myself, but could someone throw DonDiego a lifeline here?

Perhaps DonDiego doesn't understand the meaning of the word "unprecedented." Perhaps there's some actual proof for DonDiego's claim. Or perhaps DonDiego is just full of shit.

Any assistance would be appreciated!
After losing 4 cases in a month, obeyme's response is to continue what he is doing and says go ahead and sue me.

His press secretary says that they are looking for a work around on the Hobby case. There is no work around.

Meanwhile is approvals are heading to 40%

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Originally posted by: hoops2
His press secretary says that they are looking for a work around on the Hobby case. There is no work around.


There most certainly is a work around in the Hobby case. And in fact that is the main reason this case was decided the way that it was. President Obama exempted certain non-profit religious organizations from PAYING for the contraception mandate over a year ago. For those organizations, he directed the INSURANCE COMPANIES to pay for the mandate. FEMALE EMPLOYEES OF THOSE NON-PROFITS STILL GET THEIR FREE BIRTH CONTROL EVEN THOUGH THE NON PROFITS DON'T PAY FOR IT.

The court's reasoning was there's no real difference between a for profit and a non-profit when it comes to the religious beliefs of it's ownership. It has already been proven that the EMPLOYER ISN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN PAY FOR THE MANDATE. Therefore the work around in the Hobby case is the same as it was for religious non- profits. Obama simply has to order the insurance companies to pay for the mandate. He's done it before. He can do it again.

I believe in thhe Hobby case the company said they didn't want the morning after style drugs in the plan
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Originally posted by: hoops2
I believe in thhe Hobby case the company said they didn't want the morning after style drugs in the plan

What they want and what actually happens could be two different things. I'm pretty sure the religious non-profits didn't want to offer birth control too, but the way it worked out is their insurance provides it anyway.

"Alito suggested two ways the administration could ensure women get the contraception they want. It could pay for pregnancy prevention, he said. Or it could provide the same kind of accommodation made available to non-profits -- by letting the groups' insurers or a third-party administrator take on the responsibility of paying for the birth control. "

So clearly there are work arounds. The majority opinion offered two. The question is "Is the Obama Administration serious about their claim these birth control methods are important to women's health' OR would they just prefer to let women's health suffer and take the political advantage of claiming the other side is making 'War on Women'? They can 'fix' this with one executive order.

There you go!

Speaker Boehner still hasn't made good on his vow to sue President Obama. He's burned up five months and at least two teams of lawyers, but still no lawsuit against our President for delaying the ACA's employer mandate like he, his House GOP, and even most good Americans wanted him to.

It's almost as if the Speaker just meant to pull a stunt that'd rile up the usual rubes!

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
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