How 'bout That NFL ?

If that is true,I didn't realize the percentages were that high.But in my honest opinion,if anybody needs to protect their salaries,it's football players.When you conside how brutal the sport is,and one play could end a players career,I'm leaning a little to the players side.Also,their careers are not as long as say a non contact sport such as baseball.
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Originally posted by: bbking
If that is true,I didn't realize the percentages were that high.But in my honest opinion,if anybody needs to protect their salaries,it's football players.When you conside how brutal the sport is,and one play could end a players career,I'm leaning a little to the players side.Also,their careers are not as long as say a non contact sport such as baseball.


The players don't want any change at all in the contract, while the owners want to increase from 1 billion to 2 billion off of the top before there is profit sharing. The players want the owners to open their books and the owners refuse to do so.

I think this is the main sticking point. I think the rookie salary cap isn't an issue, and I think the 18 week season is negotiable.

I agree with you that I slightly side with the players on this one. That being said, many of these guys do have relatively short careers and squander their money away.
I'll bet it would help to stay in school the whole 4 years.Make them a little more mature.
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: bbking
If that is true,I didn't realize the percentages were that high.But in my honest opinion,if anybody needs to protect their salaries,it's football players.When you conside how brutal the sport is,and one play could end a players career,I'm leaning a little to the players side.Also,their careers are not as long as say a non contact sport such as baseball.

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The players don't want any change at all in the contract, while the owners want to increase from 1 billion to 2 billion off of the top before there is profit sharing. The players want the owners to open their books and the owners refuse to do so.
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Where did you hear this? I've never heard anything about the owners want to take 1 or 2 billion off the top. I'm pretty sure the sticking point is additional revs,the TV revs(9 billion) aren't the issue. But then again, me or anybody else doesn't really know whats going on behind closed doors.

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I think this is the main sticking point. I think the rookie salary cap isn't an issue, and I think the 18 week season is negotiable.
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I've never heard anything about rookie salary cap(but i think it ABSOLUTELY should be) being an issue.Paying a 20 year old kid millions is absurd. I thought the issue of an 18 game season was allready thrown out. I remember reading the pittsburgh post gazzette, and Rooney said the owners allready gave in to that one a while back.
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I agree with you that I slightly side with the players on this one. That being said, many of these guys do have relatively short careers and squander their money away.

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100%agree on short careers and pizzing their money away.Its obscene really,making that much money,enough to set you up for life and end up broke. Isn't the avg NFL career something like 3 and 1/2 years?

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Originally posted by: jatki99
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: bbking
If that is true,I didn't realize the percentages were that high.But in my honest opinion,if anybody needs to protect their salaries,it's football players.When you conside how brutal the sport is,and one play could end a players career,I'm leaning a little to the players side.Also,their careers are not as long as say a non contact sport such as baseball.

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The players don't want any change at all in the contract, while the owners want to increase from 1 billion to 2 billion off of the top before there is profit sharing. The players want the owners to open their books and the owners refuse to do so.
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Where did you hear this? I've never heard anything about the owners want to take 1 or 2 billion off the top. I'm pretty sure the sticking point is additional revs,the TV revs(9 billion) aren't the issue. But then again, me or anybody else doesn't really know whats going on behind closed doors.

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I think this is the main sticking point. I think the rookie salary cap isn't an issue, and I think the 18 week season is negotiable.
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I've never heard anything about rookie salary cap(but i think it ABSOLUTELY should be) being an issue.Paying a 20 year old kid millions is absurd. I thought the issue of an 18 game season was allready thrown out. I remember reading the pittsburgh post gazzette, and Rooney said the owners allready gave in to that one a while back.
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I agree with you that I slightly side with the players on this one. That being said, many of these guys do have relatively short careers and squander their money away.

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100%agree on short careers and pizzing their money away.Its obscene really,making that much money,enough to set you up for life and end up broke. Isn't the avg NFL career something like 3 and 1/2 years?


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NFL Owners & Players Union Extend Negotiations by Seven Days
by Fox News Insider By Fox News Correspondent Rick Folbaum

A new extension for football owners and players, working to hammer out a new collective bargaining agreement. It basically amounts to another week to bridge a billion-dollar gap. The last collective bargaining agreement gave owners a billion dollars in revenue, right off the top, to help them run their businesses. This time owners say they need two billion, mainly to help pay for all the fancy stadiums that have been built in recent years. The players say that’s too much money out of their pockets, at a time when the sport is raking in $9 billion a year in revenues. Sports Illustrated’s Mark Mravic says while there are other areas of disagreement, this is the main one.
“This is really being driven by the owners,” Mravic says. “The players really, their motto is we want to play. And they are willing to maintain the terms of the current agreement. Now the owners will say if one side is happy with an agreement that is probably unfair.”

Speaking of unfair, it’s the fans who probably feel like the biggest victims, as billionaires and millionaires duke it out, jeopardizing the upcoming season.

Just this Tuesday, we learned about something that could be a major factor in the league’s willingness to extend the deadline. Court documents for the first time publicly disclosed that when the NFL negotiated its most recent deal for TV rights with FOX, CBS and others, the networks agreed to pay the league $4 billion dollars whether there were games or not. A federal judge ruled that that wasn’t fair to the players, and he ruled that if there is a lock out, the owners will not be able to use that money to pay down any of their debts. So, $4 billion the owners were counting on getting them through any potential lock out, now can’t be used.

SI’s Mravic says there is reason for fans to be somewhat hopeful. “We saw so much doom and gloom before, even up to, yesterday’s (24-hour) extension, when no one expected anything to happen and they reached an agreement,” he says. This new week-long extension is “a sign they believe that an agreement can be reached within that window so that is very optimistic.”

We shall see.




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