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How 'bout Them Charlotte Riots

forkushV

Sep 27, 2016
9:03am

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

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Originally posted by: pjstroh
BLM is a movement that correctly points out the disproportionate homicides and oppression of police on the black community (regardless of the race of the police). And this statistic has been shown to be true in multiple studies and manifests itself in the actual statistics....which is why DonDiego is forced to make a point with unrelated and irrelevant statisitics about black-on-black violence
As has been noted elsewhere the Black community has a higher crime rate than the White community. Thus it is reasonable that the police confront Blacks disproportionately to their portion of the population...
The same argument could be used - and has been used - to justify segregation. I mean why should we risk allowing THOSE people to sit at our lunch counters. Likewise, it's been used to justify discrimination in housing, jobs, and education. And after a people are historically subject to the above, they end up poorer, less healthy, less educated, angrier and.....more prone to crime. Funny how that works out.

In a way Mr. Trump has done our nation a great service. After years of speaking in coded language and dog whistles, he's finally got people like you, others on this board, and the base of the Republican party to speak out openly in favor of the despicable unconstitutional discrimination known as racial profiling.

So DonDiego, thanks for finally taking the hood off and showing us who you really are. And if you want to know what BLM is protesting, go look in the mirror.

Balderdash !

Nothing poor old DonDiego has written calls for segregation...

Never said you did. I merely pointed out that you advocate that the police should sometimes judge individuals on the color of their skin and not the content of their character. And when you find yourself using arguments that could have justified the behavior of George Wallace and Lester Maddox, you're as bad as they were. Actually worse, since this is 2016.

forkushV

Sep 27, 2016
9:28am

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Originally posted by: jphelan
Has that argument been used in the last 40 years?

Probably many times already today. According to a Princeton study, a black man in New York City or Milwaukee with a clean record has as good a chance of getting hired into an entry level job as a white man with a felony record.

Of course we're not usually privy to the discussions that result in those kinds of decisions, but thanks to Donald Trump, things are changing and lots of people are coming out of the closet. I mean DonDiego just copped to believing that the police should sometimes judge someone on the color of their skin and not the content of their character. Because who needs probable cause when you have melanin. I don't think DD would have admitted that before Mr. Trump's rise to political prominence.

IndyBoilerman

Sep 27, 2016
12:16pm

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Boiler suggests that there is no better alternative when protecting law abiding black folks than to judge the group by the color of their skin. The tough decision must be chosen and implemented, or the law abiding black people keep dying at a terrible rate. Liberals can't make such decisions, and we end up with the South Side of Chicago.

Nice job Forkie, you and your friends are responsible.

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
BLM is a movement that correctly points out the disproportionate homicides and oppression of police on the black community (regardless of the race of the police). And this statistic has been shown to be true in multiple studies and manifests itself in the actual statistics....which is why DonDiego is forced to make a point with unrelated and irrelevant statisitics about black-on-black violence
As has been noted elsewhere the Black community has a higher crime rate than the White community. Thus it is reasonable that the police confront Blacks disproportionately to their portion of the population...
The same argument could be used - and has been used - to justify segregation. I mean why should we risk allowing THOSE people to sit at our lunch counters. Likewise, it's been used to justify discrimination in housing, jobs, and education. And after a people are historically subject to the above, they end up poorer, less healthy, less educated, angrier and.....more prone to crime. Funny how that works out.

In a way Mr. Trump has done our nation a great service. After years of speaking in coded language and dog whistles, he's finally got people like you, others on this board, and the base of the Republican party to speak out openly in favor of the despicable unconstitutional discrimination known as racial profiling.

So DonDiego, thanks for finally taking the hood off and showing us who you really are. And if you want to know what BLM is protesting, go look in the mirror.
Balderdash !

Nothing poor old DonDiego has written calls for segregation...

Don

Sep 27, 2016
12:43pm

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Originally posted by: forkushV
Never said you did [call for segregation]. I merely pointed out that you advocate that the police should sometimes judge individuals on the color of their skin and not the content of their character. And when you find yourself using arguments that could have justified the behavior of George Wallace and Lester Maddox, you're as bad as they were. Actually worse, since this is 2016.

DonDiego has not advocated "police should sometimes judge individuals on the color of their skin". DonDiego requests forkushV cite the alleged advocacy.

DonDiego has no idea how a police officer could possibly judge the content of an individual's character regardless of the color of their skin. The job of a police officer is to enforce the Law; it is not to judge anyone's character. DonDiego requests forkushV cite any reference DonDiego made as to the "content of anyone's character".

Mr. Wallace and Mr. Maddox did call for segregation on the basis of race; DonDiego has never done so. DonDiego requests forkushV cite the argument which DonDiego employed in support of Mr. Wallace and Mr. Maddox.

Once again DonDiego suggests forkushV's post reveals more about forkushV's fantasy world than it does about poor old DonDiego. How does forkushV even manage to live day-to-day in the real world?

forkushV

Sep 27, 2016
1:17pm

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

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Originally posted by: forkushV
Never said you did [call for segregation]. I merely pointed out that you advocate that the police should sometimes judge individuals on the color of their skin and not the content of their character. And when you find yourself using arguments that could have justified the behavior of George Wallace and Lester Maddox, you're as bad as they were. Actually worse, since this is 2016.

DonDiego has not advocated "police should sometimes judge individuals on the color of their skin". DonDiego requests forkushV cite the alleged advocacy...

You wrote "it is reasonable that the police confront Blacks disproportionately to their portion of the population."

Confront disproportionately in stop-and-frisks and DUI checkpoints without probable cause? That's racial profiling. It's judging people by the color of their skin instead of the content of the content of their character, and the BLM people aren't hallucinating this shit.

CowboyKell

Sep 27, 2016
2:40pm

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Gees Forky, can you be any more dense?

I know you strive to be the king of "taking things out of context" and the master of "the spin" but this is really deserving of one of those face palm memes.

Campion

Sep 27, 2016
2:45pm

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Dingleberries

Don

Sep 27, 2016
8:44pm

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Originally posted by: forkushV
You [DonDiego] wrote "it is reasonable that the police confront Blacks disproportionately to their portion of the population."

Confront disproportionately in stop-and-frisks and DUI checkpoints without probable cause? That's racial profiling. It's judging people by the color of their skin instead of the content of the content of their character, and the BLM people aren't hallucinating this shit.

Umm, what poor old DonDiego actually wrote:

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
As has been noted elsewhere the Black community has a higher crime rate than the White community. Thus it is reasonable that the police confront Blacks disproportionately to their portion of the population.

[boldface added - DD]

It is inappropriate to mischaracterize another's post by omitting pertinent information. In fact,it is dishonest.

Some facts:
__Despite making up just 13% of the population, African Americans committed half of homicides in the United States for nearly 30 years. DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, African American people committed 52% of homicides. In 2013, African Americans accounted for 52.2% of all arrests for murder, and Whites accounted for 45.3%

__From the US Department of Justice :
"Based on available data from 1980 to 2008, Blacks were disproportionately represented as both homicide victims and offenders.
The victimization rate for blacks (27.8 per 100,000) was 6 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000). The offending rate for blacks (34.4 per 100,000) was almost 8 times higher than the rate for whites (4.5 per 100,000)."
n.b. The US Department of Justice is the source for what pjstroh has referred to as "unrelated and irrelevant statisitics about black-on-black violence".

To reiterate DonDiego's point, . . . if Black Lives Matter were to concentrate on reducing Black-on-Black crimes they might well have a more significant effect on reducing he number of Black Lives Lost.

When one's community is problem-ridden, one can demonstrate one's anger and riot in the streets, . . . resulting in mayhem, injury, and destruction of property.
Or one can choose to recognize the real problems and work to improve one's community.
[n.b. These options do not represent all of one's possible options. F'rinstance, One can also join in the crimes. Or one can sit back and do nothing. It's a free country.]

alanleroyII

Sep 27, 2016
11:45pm

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Originally posted by: forkushV

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Never said you did [call for segregation]. I merely pointed out that you advocate that the police should sometimes judge individuals on the color of their skin and not the content of their character. And when you find yourself using arguments that could have justified the behavior of George Wallace and Lester Maddox, you're as bad as they were. Actually worse, since this is 2016.

DonDiego has not advocated "police should sometimes judge individuals on the color of their skin". DonDiego requests forkushV cite the alleged advocacy...

Or maybe Don Diego was observing that Police confront citizens who are.....actual suspects in crimes...or witnesses or people they were on the lookout for or people they observe performing criminal acts.....You know...the legitimate Police work that is done by the vast majority of American police.

For you to claim Don Diego is advocating racism or illegal racial profiling or justifying the behavior of George Wallace or Lester Maddox is quite a dishonest smear based on what Don Diego actually wrote. Par for the course though. Smearmeister Forky.

forkushV

Sep 28, 2016
12:56am

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Originally posted by: DonDiego

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Originally posted by: forkushV
You [DonDiego] wrote "it is reasonable that the police confront Blacks disproportionately to their portion of the population."

Confront disproportionately in stop-and-frisks and DUI checkpoints without probable cause? That's racial profiling. It's judging people by the color of their skin instead of the content of the content of their character, and the BLM people aren't hallucinating this shit.

Umm, what poor old DonDiego actually wrote:

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Originally posted by: DonDiego
As has been noted elsewhere the Black community has a higher crime rate than the White community. Thus it is reasonable that the police confront Blacks disproportionately to their portion of the population...

It isn't reasonable for the cops to confront people without probable cause. A black man holding (brandishing!!!) a gun in an open-carry state is not probable cause. A young black man walking down the street is not probable cause for a stop-and-frisk. And setting up DUI checkpoints in black areas when nearby white areas have higher incidences of actual DUI's is common and disgraceful. The BLM movement isn't hallucinating this shit, and cops who engage in the above should be fired and prosecuted, because they are judging people by the color of their skin and not the content their character.

Just like you.

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