How come conservatives are trying to dictate to business

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Originally posted by: malibber2
Not all companies want to treat their workers like Wal-Mart does. Some have actually found it makes them more money to treat their workers well.

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VW considers labor-management cooperation a competitive advantage, and the company has said it concluded that the creation of a works council in the U.S. would require union representation at the plant.


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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Funny how Malliber can't tell us how unionization will somehow 3help their economy. I wonder why?



That is why I shop at Costco.

When I was going to college I had a part time at Disneyland. We had no choice but to join the Teamsters. When the union contract came up for renewal, we met at the union hall. Every union official came to the meeting in a limo. You talk about chutzpah.

I agree there was abuse by big companies before unions, but the pendulum has swung completely the other way. If unionizing is to be so great, why would officials from Tennessee object?

As was stated in the story I posted a link to, ...s Reuters reports, in the past three decades nearly every job lost at US car factories have vanished from unionized companies; meanwhile, job gains have come almost exclusively from non-union companies.

Why do you want to hurt the economy and take away jobs?
RM I agree there has to be give an take. The local I belong to willingly went four years without a raise after the recent crash. We were smart enough to know that with home values falling so was tax revenue. At that point in time we were just glad to have a great job with great benefits and no layoffs and safe equipment. I am since retired but the local just now got a raise of 4% the first year and 3% the second year.
How long ago did you go to college? Things have tipped altogether in the other direction, and it isn't because people are rejecting unions it is because there have been so many anti-union laws passed in the last couple of decades by conservatives and some Democrats. Some bright folks are finally starting to figure out low wages aren't a good thing because eventually there aren't enough people left that can afford to buy goods and services and keep the economy going. Tutontow brought up Sam's Club vs COSTCO. I note Sam's Club just announced it was laying off 2% of its workforce.

Tennessee officials object because they are conservatives and supporters of the laws that keep wages artificially low. The mere thought of workers being able to afford a middle class life style makes their buttholes pucker.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
When I was going to college I had a part time at Disneyland. We had no choice but to join the Teamsters. When the union contract came up for renewal, we met at the union hall. Every union official came to the meeting in a limo. You talk about chutzpah.

I agree there was abuse by big companies before unions, but the pendulum has swung completely the other way. If unionizing is to be so great, why would officials from Tennessee object?

As was stated in the story I posted a link to, ...s Reuters reports, in the past three decades nearly every job lost at US car factories have vanished from unionized companies; meanwhile, job gains have come almost exclusively from non-union companies.

Why do you want to hurt the economy and take away jobs?



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Originally posted by: malibber2
...Tennessee officials object because they are conservatives and supporters of the laws that keep wages artificially low and the though of workers being able to afford a middle class life style makes their buttholes pucker.


You need to start thinking for yourself instead of regurgitating this liberal nonsense. I'll ask you again, why would Tennessee officials object to unionization? If unionization was to make things better, they should gladly welcome it and accept it. The fact is that jobs will be lost and the domino effect of less jobs will affect their economy.
You seem to be making the argument that conservative governmental officials know how to run an automotive plant better than VW management?

Well here is what the typical conservative official fears: The VW plant will unionize and soon other automotive plants all over the south will unionize falling like dominos because the employees at other plants will see how good it is at the unionized plant and want it too. Eventually unionized employees will realize their lives are better because of the unions and vote against the conservatives that tried to take their rights to unionize away.


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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: malibber2
...Tennessee officials object because they are conservatives and supporters of the laws that keep wages artificially low and the though of workers being able to afford a middle class life style makes their buttholes pucker.


You need to start thinking for yourself instead of regurgitating this liberal nonsense. I'll ask you again, why would Tennessee officials object to unionization? If unionization was to make things better, they should gladly welcome it and accept it. The fact is that jobs will be lost and the domino effect of less jobs will affect their economy.


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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: malibber2
...Tennessee officials object because they are conservatives and supporters of the laws that keep wages artificially low and the though of workers being able to afford a middle class life style makes their buttholes pucker.


You need to start thinking for yourself instead of regurgitating this liberal nonsense. I'll ask you again, why would Tennessee officials object to unionization? If unionization was to make things better, they should gladly welcome it and accept it. The fact is that jobs will be lost and the domino effect of less jobs will affect their economy.



You mean politicians don't object/embrace policy for political reasons? I learn something new here everyday.


Malliber: You seem to be making the argument that conservative governmental officials know how to run an automotive plant better than VW management?

Well here is what the typical conservative official fears: The VW plant will unionize and soon other automotive plants all over the south will unionize falling like dominos because the employees at other plants will see how good it is at the unionized plant and want it too. Eventually unionized employees will realize their lives are better because of the unions and vote against the conservatives that tried to take their rights to unionize away.


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Non answer. How will unionization help the Tennessee economy more than it does now?

Please answer and stop giving us your lazy answer about how conservatives want everybody to be poor.

VW did NOT originally support this, and it is very suspicious that they are now willing to accept it.
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
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Originally posted by: malibber2
...Tennessee officials object because they are conservatives and supporters of the laws that keep wages artificially low and the though of workers being able to afford a middle class life style makes their buttholes pucker.


You need to start thinking for yourself instead of regurgitating this liberal nonsense. I'll ask you again, why would Tennessee officials object to unionization? If unionization was to make things better, they should gladly welcome it and accept it. The fact is that jobs will be lost and the domino effect of less jobs will affect their economy.



You mean politicians don't object/embrace policy for political reasons? I learn something new here everyday.


Yes you do learn something. If they felt unionization was going to help their economy, they should warmly embrace it. I suggest liberals start asking questions and stop spouting the same canned answers.
I am just trying to nail down the argument your making. For instance you now seem be saying elected officials of any given state should be able to veto any decision a business located in that state makes if they deem than decision harmful to the state economy as a whole.

This concept is generally referred to as "centralized planning" and is a core component of a socialized economy. I would have never pegged you as a closet socialist.


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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Malliber: You seem to be making the argument that conservative governmental officials know how to run an automotive plant better than VW management?

Well here is what the typical conservative official fears: The VW plant will unionize and soon other automotive plants all over the south will unionize falling like dominos because the employees at other plants will see how good it is at the unionized plant and want it too. Eventually unionized employees will realize their lives are better because of the unions and vote against the conservatives that tried to take their rights to unionize away.


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Non answer. How will unionization help the Tennessee economy more than it does now?

Please answer and stop giving us your lazy answer about how conservatives want everybody to be poor.

VW did NOT originally support this, and it is very suspicious that they are now willing to accept it.


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