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Humor - 13 Ways to Get Extra Attention at the Blackjack Table

BAGIANT

Nov 19, 2012
11:05am

I think a tribute to Ken White or whatever his name was that established teams to count cards while he danced around the tables in wild wigs and platform shoes to distract everyone until his team told him the deck was "hot" and he would plunk down thousands of $$$ on a hand. They thought he was nuts...but he sure took down the money!

Dan Svatass

Nov 19, 2012
1:44pm

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
I didn't say casinos offer counting classes, I said they offer books that talk about counting in their general stores.

Could be, but I've never seen counting books in casino general stores, and I doubt they're inclined to sell them there.

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Just like with perfect VP strategy, I think casinos want customers to believe there is a chance to win at their games.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Most people who think they can adequately count cards, can't.

I agree with that. I'm challenging your statement that casinos want guests to know that counting can help even the odds. I see no evidence of that, and I think the opposite is true, that they don't want their players to know about counting at all.

If I was running a casino, I'd prefer that my customers be completely unaware of card counting, I think that knowledge hurts business.

Roulette Man

Nov 19, 2012
10:07pm

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
I didn't say casinos offer counting classes, I said they offer books that talk about counting in their general stores.

Could be, but I've never seen counting books in casino general stores, and I doubt they're inclined to sell them there.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Just like with perfect VP strategy, I think casinos want customers to believe there is a chance to win at their games.

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Most people who think they can adequately count cards, can't.

Well you appear to love to be argumentative. I know what I've seen, and unless I fly up to Vegas and start taking pictures of all of the book selections, this argument is moot.

Roulette Man

Nov 19, 2012
10:09pm

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Originally posted by: BAGIANT
I think a tribute to Ken White or whatever his name was that established teams to count cards while he danced around the tables in wild wigs and platform shoes to distract everyone until his team told him the deck was "hot" and he would plunk down thousands of $$$ on a hand. They thought he was nuts...but he sure took down the money!

It was Kenny Huston, and I believe some stores in hotels carried his book Million Dollar Blackjack. The other big book that I believe I saw was Beat The Dealer by Ed Thorpe, which started it all.

treegirl

Nov 20, 2012
12:50am

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Originally posted by: Roulette Man

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
I didn't say casinos offer counting classes, I said they offer books that talk about counting in their general stores.
Could be, but I've never seen counting books in casino general stores, and I doubt they're inclined to sell them there.
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Just like with perfect VP strategy, I think casinos want customers to believe there is a chance to win at their games.
I agree with that. I'm challenging your statement that casinos want guests to know that counting can help even the odds. I see no evidence of that, and I think the opposite is true, that they don't want their players to know about counting at all.
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Originally posted by: Roulette Man
Most people who think they can adequately count cards, can't.
I agree with that. I'm challenging your statement that casinos want guests to know that counting can help even the odds. I see no evidence of that, and I think the opposite is true, that they don't want their players to know about counting at all.

If I was running a casino, I'd prefer that my customers be completely unaware of card counting, I think that knowledge hurts business.

Well you appear to love to be argumentative. I know what I've seen, and unless I fly up to Vegas and start taking pictures of all of the book selections, this argument is moot.

I can't think of a better reason to make an emergency Vegas trip.
2 birds 1 stone.

CowboyKell

Nov 20, 2012
1:08am

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Originally posted by: Chilcoot
I agree with that. I'm challenging your statement that casinos want guests to know that counting can help even the odds. I see no evidence of that, and I think the opposite is true, that they don't want their players to know about counting at all.

If I was running a casino, I'd prefer that my customers be completely unaware of card counting, I think that knowledge hurts business.

Having customers aware of card counting HELPS business.

Despite what I posted earlier. What about the dozens of documenteries and the several movies that casinos have allowed to be filmed on their properties? What of the almost total cooperation that casinos give to these media groups that bring card counting know how to the masses?

Remember, the casinos are in it for the big picture over the long haul. The vast majority of potential gamblers are too ignorant to use card counting to their favor. The casinos know that they will lose money while they try. As far as the tiny percentage that can use it to their advantage (like getting all those free waters) they don't win enough to counter all the "card counters" that lose. Besides, they can always ask a suspected "winning" card counter to leave.

Dan Svatass

Nov 20, 2012
8:36am

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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
Having customers aware of card counting HELPS business.

Despite what I posted earlier. What about the dozens of documenteries and the several movies that casinos have allowed to be filmed on their properties? What of the almost total cooperation that casinos give to these media groups that bring card counting know how to the masses?

Remember, the casinos are in it for the big picture over the long haul. The vast majority of potential gamblers are too ignorant to use card counting to their favor. The casinos know that they will lose money while they try. As far as the tiny percentage that can use it to their advantage (like getting all those free waters) they don't win enough to counter all the "card counters" that lose. Besides, they can always ask a suspected "winning" card counter to leave.

I agree that a wise casino tries to instill a sense of confidence in prospective blackjack players. I think that's why they offer free blackjack lessons and sell basic strategy cards in the gift shop. Many people are intimidated by table games, and casinos try to overcome that by making potential players more comfortable with sitting down and buying in.

I don't think their efforts extend, however, to educating players about the utility of card counting. that's my point. Casinos hate card counters and prefer that the gambling public not know how easy and powerful it can be. I don't agree with your assertion that the bad counters lose more than what the good counters win. I think the opposite is true, but I could be persuaded by data if you know of some.

Sure, the number of card counters who think they have an edge at the game is greater than the number of card counters who actually have an edge at the game. But on balance, I think casinos would just prefer there not be any card counters. I think that explains in large measure why so many casinos have adopted such deep cuts and continuous shuffling machines: they don't want the business of card counters. And they sure don't want to encourage counting by letting players "know that counting can help even the odds", as an earlier poster to this thread asserts.

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