I Just Don't Get It ~ VP Systems

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
mrmarcus: I have never criticized Dancer for not explaining that VP is high variance. I have never praised Singer for advocating a system that actually increases that variance. So, to refresh your memory, the answer to your question about which I have done more-- the answer is neither.


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Originally posted by: tomdoug It amazes me how some posters are quick to "put words in your mouth", but when asked to produce a quote to back up their accusations, they never do.


Money's posts are REPLETE with examples. Here's one from this very thread, for those of us who are particularly reality challenged:

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Singer is not a charlatan... he admits that his "plays" are NOT the optimum plays but are his option to try to win a bigger amount of money? Is that what a charlatan does-- admit to his differences and be upfront and honest that another (more acceptable) strategy does have better odds of winning the grind?

Singer is simply saying, what I believe, are three things:
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3. be ready to gamble when you gamble. instead of playing the grind take your shot at the big win

is that what a charlatan says?


And, again, to be clear, THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE CASINOS SAY!!! They want you to trade your thousand small $1 losses for a single $850 win. That's their business! Their game!



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Originally posted by: tomdoug
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Originally posted by: alexlifeson
TomdougSinger, how was your vacation in Hawaii?


It was great! Unfortunately, I have to go back to building aircarft carriers in about 2 hrs. You see, thats what I really do for a living.
I don't live in a fanatasy world sitting around trying to guess who everyone is.
By the way, I got you pegged as a homosexual based on your avatar and writing style.
Is that how you do it? Is that a good guess?


No response from the queer yet. bummer
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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
I have never criticized Dancer for not explaining that VP is high variance.


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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
What is really unfortunate is that there are many, many followers of the Dancer kind of thinking who don't have the bankroll that Dancer has. These players may buy into the Dancer strategy (and paying good money to get it, too) but not hve the bankroll for those hundreds of plays or more.


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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
The problem is that there are many who don't understand that even Dancer needs a huge bankroll to generate what I would consider to be sufficient income when everything goes right.


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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
I have never praised Singer for advocating a system that actually increases that variance.


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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
I also follow his controversial idea in Triple Double Bonus of holding 3 aces and no kicker.
And now I am thinking about holding only the three aces when dealt a full house with three aces playing bonus.

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Originally posted by: MissL7777
Most everyone I know who plays video poker has a system, favorite game, strategy that works for him or her. Some will cash out when they get their first 4-of-a-kind and call it a day. Others will grind the machines until the wee hours of the morning.

Some will only play 9/6 JOB. Others will play whatever machine speaks to them. Some care about pay tables while others could give a flying flip.

Why ALL the debate over whose system/strategy is better than whom? Why debate systems and strategy thread after thread after thread?

I get that more than one person has made a career over selling their strategies and systems. Each author's philosophy is a little different. And, that's okay.

Why not play the machines, denominations, games that speak to you using the strategy and systems you believe in?

Seriously, I don't get why some people get all worked up over the way someone else chooses to spend their hard earned money.

I believe that is what forums are for. You wouldn't criticise how somebody in a casino is playing. But here different approaches can be submitted and hashed out. I'm in favor of this type of discussion. It may be heated, but ideas are being exchanged.


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Originally posted by: tomdoug No response from the queer yet. bummer


I'm all for heated forum debates but that is inappropriate in this day and age. I guarantee you don't freely call people "queer" in public and think it is okay. This is a "hide at the keyboard" post. Why don't you get back on topic instead of showing your ignorance?

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Originally posted by: Liondownnow
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Originally posted by: tomdoug No response from the queer yet. bummer


I'm all for heated forum debates but that is inappropriate in this day and age. I guarantee you don't freely call people "queer" in public and think it is okay. This is a "hide at the keyboard" post. Why don't you get back on topic instead of showing your ignorance?


For any of you who doubted that tomdoug=Rob Singer this post should remove that doubt.

Funny (ironic) that Singer would "out himself" by once again openly displaying his bigotry.

RSinger1111, BanjoJerry, DonDona, DonaDon, Rosedon, KeithBarker, JackTheStripper, Jerry Logan and now tomdoug. There are many others, but one loses track.

Robert, seriously, you need professional help.
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: MissL7777
Seriously, I don't get why some people get all worked up over the way someone else chooses to spend their hard earned money.


We're men. We've been programmed through thousands of millenia that if we ignore a pissing contest some new cro-magnon is going to start peeing all over us.


Does your "Lucky Hat" have any insight as to when those participating in said pissing contest reach the nth degree and will agree to disagree?

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Originally posted by: MissL7777
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: MissL7777
Seriously, I don't get why some people get all worked up over the way someone else chooses to spend their hard earned money.


We're men. We've been programmed through thousands of millenia that if we ignore a pissing contest some new cro-magnon is going to start peeing all over us.


Does your "Lucky Hat" have any insight as to when those participating in said pissing contest reach the nth degree and will agree to disagree?


That is the mark of a quitter.
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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: MissL7777
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: MissL7777
Seriously, I don't get why some people get all worked up over the way someone else chooses to spend their hard earned money.


We're men. We've been programmed through thousands of millenia that if we ignore a pissing contest some new cro-magnon is going to start peeing all over us.


Does your "Lucky Hat" have any insight as to when those participating in said pissing contest reach the nth degree and will agree to disagree?


That is the mark of a quitter.


or someone who believes in compromise.

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Originally posted by: MissL7777
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Originally posted by: snidely333
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Originally posted by: MissL7777
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: MissL7777
Seriously, I don't get why some people get all worked up over the way someone else chooses to spend their hard earned money.


We're men. We've been programmed through thousands of millenia that if we ignore a pissing contest some new cro-magnon is going to start peeing all over us.


Does your "Lucky Hat" have any insight as to when those participating in said pissing contest reach the nth degree and will agree to disagree?


That is the mark of a quitter.


or someone who believes in compromise.

AKA: "The Pissee".

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