Vegas Free-for-All - I just read Bob Dancer's Jan 25th column

I just read Bob Dancer's Jan 25th column

KayPea

Feb 7, 2011
2:39am

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Originally posted by: snidely333
One honest coin flip for your entire net worth at 100 to 1? 20 to 1? Would you do it for 10 to 1?

That would give be cause to pause and think about it.

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Originally posted by: snidely333
The less you have the more likely you would flip that coin.

Agreed.

chefantwon

Feb 7, 2011
6:05am

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Originally posted by: arcimedes

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Originally posted by: MoneyLA
Dan, I know all about mathematical advantages. I also know about cold streaks. the math theory works only when the cards or the RNG cooperates.

This is nothing but pure nonsense. Sorry money, you constantly go back to making these ridiculous claims and never pay any attention when the facts are pointed out to you.

As has been pointed out to you numerous times, there are no times the RNG is cooperating or not cooperating. It is not a person, it is a thing. It is always doing exactly what RNGs do. Cold streaks and hot streaks are BOTH part of the math. One isn't different than the other. They are both parts of the whole.

For example, a couple of weeks ago I had quad aces 4 times in about 6 hours and lost over a grand. How did this happen ... I was playing OEJs and quad aces are only worth 75 credits. I simply didn't get many good hands for the game I was playing on that particular day. The RNG was doing what it always does. That's where statistics comes into play. Over time all the good runs and bad runs start to average out.

This is what people have been trying to get across to you with analogies that are simple and easy to understand. What do you do ... you make some inane remark that you'd never make that bet. How about trying to understand the analogy?

Forest Gump was on yesterday and I still love that one line ... "stupid is as stupid does".

Of course all of this only applies if one has the bankroll to cover the "cold streak". If not, it really doesn't matter because they won't be playing until the next time when they have money.

redietzxyx

Feb 7, 2011
7:10am

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After digesting the posts here, I've to come to the conclusion that most of the "advantage players" are kind of like Sheldon on the Big Bang episode where he plays Warlords of Ka'a against Wil Wheaton. They have the math down, but somehow the bull**** detectors are occasionally offline.

I'm an "advantage player," but I have a healthy sensitivity to what I don't know, and that seems to be rare here -- the classic advantage players posting here presume they have a grasp of the entire context in which they are playing, rather than just a grasp on the math and the machines. The issue of vp shills remains unanswered. The problems with fixed or biased drawings remain relevant. And appeals to the NGC or the old and incorrect "oh my god, if they're caught, they'll be castrated" commentaries are, at best, suspect. The NGC, by the way, when fully funded and on schedule, manages to get around to checking each machine about every two years. Of course, they are never on schedule. And. of course, their schedule is kept in the closest confidence and never leaked (yes, Sheldons, that was sarcasm).

fedomalley

Feb 7, 2011
7:49am

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RT, does anyone here really care one iota what asshole Singer has to say?

Talk about lack of credibility....here's a guy who claims he makes a lot of money by employing his unique method and special plays for literally a few hours a trip but is now retired. He has the key to the safe but doesn't want to make all of this easy money. Does that make any sense to anyone here?

This thread is going nowhere....makes me wonder why in the height of all this paranoia about shills and rigged drawings why any of you would concede to playing?

Dan

oobiedoobie

Feb 7, 2011
7:53am

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I feel you, Dancer, I just lost $80 chasing a $15 buffet,

RoadTrip

Feb 7, 2011
8:04am

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Originally posted by: fedomalley
RT, does anyone here really care one iota what asshole Singer has to say?

Talk about lack of credibility....here's a guy who claims he makes a lot of money by employing his unique method and special plays for literally a few hours a trip but is now retired. He has the key to the safe but doesn't want to make all of this easy money. Does that make any sense to anyone here?

This thread is going nowhere....makes me wonder why in the height of all this paranoia about shills and rigged drawings why any of you would concede to playing?

Dan

I'm somewhat certain MoneyLA will care more than one iota about what Singer has to say.

And I am so concerned about rigged drawings and shills, and the possibility that I might actually lose on an advantage play that I have stopped playing!

arcimedes

Feb 7, 2011
9:37am

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Singer is a projection machine. All you need to do is read his posts to know what bothers him about his own life.

On top of that, he is so jealous of Dancer (and me it appears) that he goes on and on with lie after lie. I really think the guy is going completely bonkers. It's been obvious for quite awhile that he's been sliding fast.

Now I will go over to that forum and make him look foolish yet again.

PS. I don't own a dialysis machine so you know how much of Singer's rant has any semblance of truth in it.

chefantwon

Feb 7, 2011
9:46am

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Originally posted by: arcimedes
Singer is a projection machine. All you need to do is read his posts to know what bothers him about his own life.

On top of that, he is so jealous of Dancer (and me it appears) that he goes on and on with lie after lie. I really think the guy is going completely bonkers. It's been obvious for quite awhile that he's been sliding fast.

Now I will go over to that forum and make him look foolish yet again.

PS. I don't own a dialysis machine so you know how much of Singer's rant has any semblance of truth in it.

Never did the post say ANYTHING about owning such a do hicky, only that one was being used.

Personally, I could care less, I've been waiting for a post from Singer and it took far longer than I thought for him to respond to this thread. I didn't care what it said, just to see the feedback.

arcimedes

Feb 7, 2011
9:57am

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Originally posted by: chefantwon

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Originally posted by: arcimedes
Singer is a projection machine. All you need to do is read his posts to know what bothers him about his own life.

On top of that, he is so jealous of Dancer (and me it appears) that he goes on and on with lie after lie. I really think the guy is going completely bonkers. It's been obvious for quite awhile that he's been sliding fast.

Now I will go over to that forum and make him look foolish yet again.

PS. I don't own a dialysis machine so you know how much of Singer's rant has any semblance of truth in it.

Are you always this thick? Do people always have to spell out every little detail for you? Well, here let me help you out.

My wife and I don't own, rent, borrow, steal, or have anything on our property that can be called or resembles a dialysis machine. Does that help you out?

BTW, I think Singer originally confused diarrhea with dialysis and that is why he goes on and on about diapers. I don't think he knew they were different things. Just shows what an idiot he is.

chefantwon

Feb 7, 2011
11:03am

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Originally posted by: arcimedes

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Originally posted by: chefantwon
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Originally posted by: arcimedes
Singer is a projection machine. All you need to do is read his posts to know what bothers him about his own life.

On top of that, he is so jealous of Dancer (and me it appears) that he goes on and on with lie after lie. I really think the guy is going completely bonkers. It's been obvious for quite awhile that he's been sliding fast.

Now I will go over to that forum and make him look foolish yet again.

PS. I don't own a dialysis machine so you know how much of Singer's rant has any semblance of truth in it.

Never did the post say ANYTHING about owning such a do hicky, only that one was being used.

Personally, I could care less, I've been waiting for a post from Singer and it took far longer than I thought for him to respond to this thread. I didn't care what it said, just to see the feedback.

Seems like Arci either failed to read my last 2 sentences, it stated "Personally, I could care less" meaning I'm not in the caring mode about the digs between you and Singer. I was just waiting to see what he was going to say. I could care even less what his response was going to be.

I could care less if your wife is/was/isn't/had been/never has been utilizing diapers for what ever reason. I simply don't care.

Nor do I have any opinion about any sort of dialysis, if one needs it then fine, use it. I don't care if you own/rent/borrowed/ or stole one either. I just rebutted to the fact you stated about owning one, where no such inference to such a thing was referred, only that one was being used. Questions, take it up with Singer, not me as I don't care.

I don't care.... Really, I don't.

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