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I see the Republican Party establishment is taking down Trump.

alanleroy
alanleroy
Jul 28, 2015
6:55pm
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...Then you asked "What's going to happen to Bernie?"...
No I did NOT. I quoted your "going to happen" meaning that you were predicting something in the future, but for now, you got nothing. And I was right, wasn't I?

YES YOU DID ASK 'WHAT IS "GOING TO HAPPEN" TO BERNIE?'. Those are your exact words. I've got news for you "What's going to happen to Bernie?" and "What's "going to happen" to Bernie?" are the same question...except for the kind of people who question what the meaning of is is.

And of course I was predicting something in the future. Duh. I was responding directly to malibber's comment that "You get the establishment approved candidates and nobody else". I was predicting that rank and file Democrats are not going to get Bernie just like rank and file Republicans are not going to get Trump. THEY ARE BOTH GOING TO GET THE ESTABLISHMENT APPROVED CANDIDATES AS THEIR PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE. This a the truth that you even seemed to agree with. What's so fucking hard to understand about it? Are you daft? This is the crux of your comprehension issue. You want me to say I'm running away from THIS? You call me cowardly for THIS? You still don't get it, do you? You've got nothing.

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Originally posted by: forkushV
And I believe the following in my heart of hearts: Hillary would NEVER get the Democratic establishment to slam Bernie in any sort of sleazy or disreputable way EVER, under any conditions - unless it would help her win.

What a ringing endorsement of Hillary's integrity. She'll do whatever it takes to win. Pretty much the way I see her too. At least we agree on something.

alanleroy
alanleroy
Jul 28, 2015
6:59pm
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Originally posted by: malibber2
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Originally posted by: pjstroh
The Republican brand has reached an all time low due in no small part to the inflammatory rhetoric coming from Trump. sanders likely wont beat Hillary but his platform is not dragging down the perception of the Democratic party. sanders' platform largely polls well.


It is so amusing watching the candidates try and out Trump Trump. Once you reference putting Jews in the oven it it possible to sink any lower?

Can't wait for the debate.

forkushV
forkushV
Jul 29, 2015
2:36am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...Then you asked "What's going to happen to Bernie?"...
No I did NOT. I quoted your "going to happen" meaning that you were predicting something in the future, but for now, you got nothing. And I was right, wasn't I?

YES YOU DID ASK 'WHAT IS "GOING TO HAPPEN" TO BERNIE?'...
Yeah, and those quotation marks were there for a reason. I was quoting you.



forkushV
forkushV
Jul 29, 2015
2:57am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
And I believe the following in my heart of hearts: Hillary would NEVER get the Democratic establishment to slam Bernie in any sort of sleazy or disreputable way EVER, under any conditions - unless it would help her win.

What a ringing endorsement of Hillary's integrity. She'll do whatever it takes to win. Pretty much the way I see her too. At least we agree on something.
Dude, out of pure political (mis)calculation, Hillary voted to let the moron go to war in Iraq. Compared with that, playing hardball politics is a pretty minor sin. Besides, when it comes to integrity the first half of her life was investigated by right-wing partisans to the tune of $70 million in taxpayer dollars, and they got nothing. Sound familiar, alanleroy?

And it's telling that after no doubt burning up the google, the worst you can find is an email from a Hillary staffer. If that's the worst you got, you still got nothing.

alanleroy
alanleroy
Jul 29, 2015
3:25am
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...Then you asked "What's going to happen to Bernie?"...
No I did NOT. I quoted your "going to happen" meaning that you were predicting something in the future, but for now, you got nothing. And I was right, wasn't I?

YES YOU DID ASK 'WHAT IS "GOING TO HAPPEN" TO BERNIE?'...
Yeah, and those quotation marks were there for a reason. I was quoting you.

Yes punctuation does make a difference. Like when you put a "What is" in front of "Going to happen" to Bernie...and add a Question Mark at the end...it makes it a question, not a quote or a statement. Your question. Which I answered. Now...What was it you claim I'm 'running away from'? What Cowardly act did I commit? You've got nothing.

alanleroy
alanleroy
Jul 29, 2015
3:47am
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Originally posted by: forkushV
And it's telling that after no doubt burning up the google, the worst you can find is an email from a Hillary staffer. If that's the worst you got, you still got nothing.

I burned up no google. I typed in Hillary Clinton Dirty Tricks and got 3.9 million hits. I scanned until I found an appropriate example of her campaign attacking a fellow democrat. And boy what a perfect example...

"Obama's campaign manager, David Plouffe, described it as "the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering we've seen from either party in this election".

The implication from the OP was that the bad Republicans are taking down the peoples choice while the good Democrats never eat their own. Well they do. And the leading Democrat's campaign committed 'the most shameful, offensive fear-mongering' against one of her own in her last run. That's all the proof we need, but there are 3.9 million articles you can review and summarize for us if you're interested. Many may not apply.

So to summarize:

1. Bernie is not going to get nominated....just like Trump will not be nominated.
2. Hillary is not beneath getting in the mud to roll over Bernie if she feels threatened.

There. You can thank me for enlightening you or apologize for starting the personal attacks without cause. I will be gracious either way.



chafraho
chafraho
Jul 29, 2015
7:42am
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Let's review here for a moment. In 2008, Hillary was the number two choice for the dems, with mr. obama being first choice. Obama was the best the dems could put forth. So, 8 years later, number two is the best. That's what I call strategy at it's finest.

"We're number two...We're number two..."
Ellen Locke
Ellen Locke
Jul 29, 2015
9:56am
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Originally posted by: chafraho
Let's review here for a moment. In 2008, Hillary was the number two choice for the dems, with mr. obama being first choice. Obama was the best the dems could put forth. So, 8 years later, number two is the best. That's what I call strategy at it's finest.

"We're number two...We're number two..."


I hadn't thought about this. But you're right. And Bush following two terms of Reagan illustrates this point well.
forkushV
forkushV
Jul 29, 2015
10:28am
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Originally posted by: alanleroy
...So to summarize:

1. Bernie is not going to get nominated....just like Trump will not be nominated.
2. Hillary is not beneath getting in the mud to roll over Bernie if she feels threatened...
There you go again. This is all I am saying:

  • The Republican Party establishment is currently trying to take down Donald Trump.
  • The Democratic Party establishment is currently NOT trying to take down Bernie Sanders.

    And your claims about the attacks the Democrats are going to make on Bernie are pure prediction and supposition and guesswork. In other words, you got nothing.

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    chafraho
    Jul 29, 2015
    11:29am
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    Originally posted by: EllenMonster
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    Originally posted by: chafraho
    Let's review here for a moment. In 2008, Hillary was the number two choice for the dems, with mr. obama being first choice. Obama was the best the dems could put forth. So, 8 years later, number two is the best. That's what I call strategy at it's finest.

    "We're number two...We're number two..."


    I hadn't thought about this. But you're right. And Bush following two terms of Reagan illustrates this point well.


    exactly. it just doesn't work out well when we go with what some politico, or convention, thinks we should go with
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