If the shoe were on the other foot...

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Originally posted by: chefantwon
The Constitution was written that way SPECIFICALLY so some popular fool wouldn't be elected as President.

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That didn't work the last two elections, so......

Ray
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Originally posted by: agnes
Daisybasket, you have an interesting qualifier for judgement on abortions - holding a human brain.
My qualifiers have always been that you should 1) have or had have a uterus or 2) have at least one adopted child before you have a vote on abortion.


I believe that anyone who has been in the position that they themselves could have been aborted, they are qualified.

I'm not sure I understand the full statement, but I myself could have been aborted as the child of a single teen mom with no bio father. Her story to tell, not mine, so I won't. And she did not have another child for 12 years when married to my "father". And adopted two more children, had custody of others peoples kids and to this day cannot turn away a child in need. So yes, as a possible abortion. I most definitely think that mothers that bring children into this world to be neglected, abused and unwanted from their first breath may make a bette choice to abort. Heck, I find shared parenting and child support to be offensive. My mom did not sell my soul for a few bucks for a prom dress and some Nikes. I was worth more Than that.

If you read carsons interview, he said due to his work, he held the human life in a very miraculous high regard. Me, I'm a quality of life kind of girl.

But the point is, we all get our opinions based on our personal circumstance. I've heard too many grown people impacted by divorce and daddy issues. I have not lived through either. As for the abort issue, I am talking gross abuse. Like torture kind of stuff.
Had only Trump and Liary been on the ticket, Trump wins 51% to 49%. Libs wish to ignore this truth.


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Originally posted by: O2bnVegas
I think it would benefit most of us to research the history and purpose of the Electoral College before forming an opinion whether is it relevant today or not.

But, human nature being what it is, people will be in favor of whatever would benefit the candidate they wanted to win the election.

JMHO.



Billy, you're bitching and moaning now.


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Originally posted by: billryan
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Originally posted by: drmilled
billryan- quit your crying and baiting. Don't you have something better to do with your life than bitch and moan about the election results. The nation has spoken, Trump is the next President and all of your whining will not change that fact.

If you could show me where I've cried or bitched, you might have a point, but as usual you are vapid and clueless.
Do I dispise Trump and how he ran his campaign? Absolutely. But I love my country and for it to succeed, I have to hope and help President Trump to succeed. I hope the Democrats don't follow the republicans example and say their main priority is to see Trump be a one term president.
Trump won and in January, he will be my President. I want, and will work for the President to be successful.
Unlike you and your ilk.


I'm in favor of a fair fight! It's like the hanging chads in the Dubya Era! the only FAIR way to settle that would have been to throw it all out and start from scratch!
Only those who've been aborted have the right to abort.


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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
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Originally posted by: agnes
Daisybasket, you have an interesting qualifier for judgement on abortions - holding a human brain.
My qualifiers have always been that you should 1) have or had have a uterus or 2) have at least one adopted child before you have a vote on abortion.


I believe that anyone who has been in the position that they themselves could have been aborted, they are qualified.


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Originally posted by: CowboyKell
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Originally posted by: agnes
Daisybasket, you have an interesting qualifier for judgement on abortions - holding a human brain.
My qualifiers have always been that you should 1) have or had have a uterus or 2) have at least one adopted child before you have a vote on abortion.


I believe that anyone who has been in the position that they themselves could have been aborted, they are qualified.


I believe you must have seen a 24 week baby survive an early birth and see a 3rd trimester partial birth abortion before you are "qualified" to vote on 3rd trimester abortions. I guess I am kinda funny that way.

People are so far to one side of an issue or the other whether it be abortion or gun control. They fail to see there are some reasonable compromise / restrictions. For example limits on 3rd trimester abortions when the life of the mother / baby is not in danger or limits on clip sizes / background checks for gun purchases.


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Originally posted by: billryan
Had Hillary won the electoral college but Trump won the popular vote, do you think trumps supporters would not have protested?
Seeing how one former Congressman said he would take his musketeers and march on Washington , I don't think they would have behaved any better than what's going on now.
It's not like I expect most of you to a answer honestly, but go right ahead.
Part I

DonDiego cannot speak for "Trump supporters"; DonDiego would not have protested.

To the best of his recollection DonDiego has only ever participated in a protest demonstration one time, . . . when the university which he was attending announced a tuition increase. Several hundred participants participated in a night march to the residence of the University President who came out and addressed the crowd. No rocks were thrown, no fires were set, no injuries were sustained.

Not knowing exactly what to do next, the crowd leaders commenced a march to the women's dormitory and a somewhat awkward panty raid. The learning institution which DonDiego was attending was overwhelmingly male; the few females matriculating there were noted more for their academic achievements than their beauty or vivacity. So as the crowd assembled next to the 10-or-12 story dormitory ladies' underthings began flying out of the windows onto the raucous crowd below. DonDiego thought this was not the normal expectation for a panty raid; he never investigated further to confirm this perception.

After one of the males in the crowd climbed 4 or 5 stories until a female resident opened a window to him and so he entered the building the crowd applauded wildly. After that the members of the demonstration had no idea what to do, . . . so the crowd broke up and everybody went back to their dormitories.
Still no rocks were thrown, no fires were set, no injuries were sustained. A few dainty underthings did flutter through the air.

The tuition rise took place exactly as announced.


Part II

Why the Electoral College Exists offers an excellent brief explanation of the reason(s) the Electoral College exists and why it is likely to persist.

The article includes a reference to the idea that a big reason for the Electoral College was to placate the Slave States which would otherwise have been under-represented; DonDiego leaves investigation of this to the interested reader, if any. (This Time Magazine article might be a good place to start.)

In any case nowadays: "The idea is that doing it this way people living in smaller, often more rural states, would get their voices heard too. If the U.S. had elections based on popular votes alone, the candidates would focus most of their attention on areas with large populations. Would it be fair that policies benefitting California or New York, where a big chunk of Americans lives, should be the main ones enacted, at the expense of policies that would focus, let’s say, on the Rust Belt states, who were key in deciding the current election?"

As DonDiego is unlikely to take up residence in a major metropolis, he sorta likes the Electoral College. He'd prefer it remain, . . . but if the Constitution were amended to eliminate it he'd still likely i. not protest, and ii. not leave the country.


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