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pjstroh
pjstroh
May 12, 2016
2:18am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII


So, Trump has built an international business with over 500 independent subsidiaries and employs 10s of thousands of people.


Many of them indentured servants.
Exploited Workers building Trump's golf course in Dubai

and illegal aliens - dont tell Joe Arpaio
Trump Tower built by undocumented workers
Boilerman
Boilerman
May 12, 2016
2:18am
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Boiler supports The Donald's utilization of the same sort of dirty politics used by the Clinton's and most Democrats. They're successfully used dirty pool for years.

It's sad that it works, but it does work.
Boilerman
Boilerman
May 12, 2016
2:23am
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Is forkie going to address my data about Trumps investment success? Do you disagree with my numbers, and are they not a better measure of his business success?
forkushV
forkushV
May 12, 2016
2:33am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Trump did a nice job choosing his parents. Other than that, he's a business loser.

Well, well, well. Here is a nice debunking of this whole bullshit narrative.

Should Trump have Indexed?

It points out many of the flaws that I independently described, including the arbitrary time frame selected, not accounting for taxes and expenses, and inaccurately assuming his starting and ending wealth. I know. I'm just that good.

This Bloomberg author concludes "...he's modestly outperformed the S&P over his career, again depending on how you do the math. That, however, understates his performance." So not only did he outperform the S&P he may have crushed it...
...depending upon your fantasy life imagination.

During Donald's first few years before his dad got Alzheimer's, Trump did quite well. Since 1988 it is indisputable that he has been a $9 billion negative asset - less taxes and expenses. So maybe he's only a $5 billion loser, right alanleroy? And his business acumen is his entire claim to fame.

And speaking of daddy:

"Through his attorney, Fred Trump bought 700 gray chips, each worth $5,000, in December so that Trump Castle Casino Resort would have enough cash to make an $18.4 million interest payment on its mortgage, the division said."

Without that illegal loan, that would have been bankruptcy number five, not counting the failed airline and the scam university. Can't you just smell the business success?

alanleroyII
alanleroyII
May 12, 2016
2:33am
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Maybe Trump should agree to release his Tax Returns when Hillary releases the transcripts to her $250,000 per speeches to Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, Fidelity Investments UBS and Bank of America.
alanleroyII
alanleroyII
May 12, 2016
2:44am
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Originally posted by: forkushV...depending upon your fantasy life imagination.

Since 1988 ...blah, blah, blah
It's your fantasy life imagination that Trumps business life began in 1988. As the linked article pointed out if you look at the entirety of his career he exceeded the S&P index....maybe even crushed it if you consider taxes and expenses.

You pointed to five Trump business failures. What about the other 500+ successes? And how many business successes or failures has Hillary had? How many jobs has she created?

Don
Don
May 12, 2016
2:49am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Maybe Trump should agree to release his Tax Returns when Hillary releases the transcripts to her $250,000 per speeches to Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, Fidelity Investments UBS and Bank of America.

Technically, Her minimum fee was $225,000; the most She received for one speech was $400,000.

DonDiego has a theory as to why the content of the speeches remains unpublished. He supposes that The Hillary gave essentially the same speech to the Wall Street investment firms, the private equity investors, the hedge funds, et al. And it might embarrass the firms and The Hillary if it were public knowledge that She was paid $9,680,000 for delivering the same speech 41 times during, f'rinstance, the year 2013.

DonDiego suggests the entire episode reveals that She was not paid for Her investment knowledge, but for access to Her influence over Government decisions then, now, and in the future. DonDiego opines there is nothing illegal about this.
Boilerman
Boilerman
May 12, 2016
2:50am
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Let me see if I understand Forkie correctly. Forkie is arguing that the health of a man............a man who never worked for Donald Trump mind you, is relevant to the man's success.

Forkie, if you have a great story about socialism and communism, just tells that great story. Why this bullshit and intentionally misleading data?


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Originally posted by: forkushV
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV
Trump did a nice job choosing his parents. Other than that, he's a business loser.

Well, well, well. Here is a nice debunking of this whole bullshit narrative.

Should Trump have Indexed?

It points out many of the flaws that I independently described, including the arbitrary time frame selected, not accounting for taxes and expenses, and inaccurately assuming his starting and ending wealth. I know. I'm just that good.

This Bloomberg author concludes "...he's modestly outperformed the S&P over his career, again depending on how you do the math. That, however, understates his performance." So not only did he outperform the S&P he may have crushed it...
...depending upon your fantasy life imagination.

During Donald's first few years before his dad got Alzheimer's, Trump did quite well. Since 1988 it is indisputable that he has been a $9 billion negative asset - less taxes and expenses. So maybe he's only a $5 billion loser, right alanleroy? And his business acumen is his entire claim to fame.

And speaking of daddy:

"Through his attorney, Fred Trump bought 700 gray chips, each worth $5,000, in December so that Trump Castle Casino Resort would have enough cash to make an $18.4 million interest payment on its mortgage, the division said."

Without that illegal loan, that would have been bankruptcy number five, not counting the failed airline and the scam university. Can't you just smell the business success?


forkushV
forkushV
May 12, 2016
2:53am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
Maybe Trump should agree to release his Tax Returns when Hillary releases the transcripts to her $250,000 per speeches to Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Deutsche Bank, Fidelity Investments UBS and Bank of America.
Hasn't every presidential nominee since Nixon released their taxes?

Has Trump ever released the transcripts from his paid speeches? For that matter, did Nixon-McGovern-Ford-Carter-Reagan-Mondale-Dukakis-Bush I-B Clinton-Bush II-Obama-McCain-Romney ever release their transcripts of paid speeches?

So Hillary would be the first.......EVER!!!!!!!

forkushV
forkushV
May 12, 2016
2:58am
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Originally posted by: alanleroyII
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Originally posted by: forkushV...depending upon your fantasy life imagination.

Since 1988 ...blah, blah, blah
It's your fantasy life imagination that Trumps business life began in 1988...
Oh I completely admit Trump was successful prior to 1988. Since 1988 - a loser businessman.
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