Forkie proves one again that he's dishonest.
QuoteI think we can all agree that a person who readily accepts a candidate's wealth claim from the year 2000 (when it suits his purposes) and rejects the same person's claim from 2015 (when it doesn't suit his purposes) is simply cherry picking statistics to fit his own agenda....Just like the original AP story. That was my point all along. Thank you for proving it for me.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteIf Forbes mis-estimated Donald Trump's worth by 250%, then Trump is a great businessman.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteWell if you accept his 2000 claim of a $5 billon net worth then you'd be a hypocrite to not accept his 2015 claim of a 10+ billion net worth.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteYou want to compare it with 2000? Cool!
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteAlso the S&P was at a low point on 1/1/88, so the index he's comparing to was moving into a major bull market. If the analysis started in 1/1/2000 it would be a completely different result...but that wouldn't fit his narrative.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Oh gosh, I'm shock!
I just found learned that the housing index in Manhattan was at a peak of 100 in 1988, then dropped by 27% over the next 6 years. The index did not again hit 100 until 2002...............14 years after Forkies random year of 1988.
Okay Forkie, how about you repeat your calculations, except this time begin in 1998?
In 2000, Trump claimed his net worth was $5 billion. In 2016, Forbes says he is worth $4 billion.
I think he would have done better to invest in Blockbuster Video. Can't you just smell the great business acumen?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-files-personal-financial-disclosure-statement-with-federal
So using your methodology, his net worth increased by 100% during a period when the S&P 500 increased by 30%. What a truly remarkable businessman.
If Forbes is accurate, than Trump is a loser businessman.
Can we all agree on that?
QuoteOf course I understand. "There are a few good ones" is in the repertoire of almost every white supremacist.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie, I'm sorry to leave you for two or three hours, but I must leave to meet my, black as the night, Tanzanian friend Dom. When it's dark, he scares me with his smile! In all seriousness, Dom and I joke about that.
You might not understand the joke.
QuoteDamn, I wish I could take credit for coming up with this trap, but alanleroy, you kind of sprung it on yourself.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteI think we can all agree that a person who readily accepts a candidate's wealth claim from the year 2000 (when it suits his purposes) and rejects the same person's claim from 2015 (when it doesn't suit his purposes) is simply cherry picking statistics to fit his own agenda....Just like the original AP story. That was my point all along. Thank you for proving it for me.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteIf Forbes mis-estimated Donald Trump's worth by 250%, then Trump is a great businessman.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteWell if you accept his 2000 claim of a $5 billon net worth then you'd be a hypocrite to not accept his 2015 claim of a 10+ billion net worth.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteYou want to compare it with 2000? Cool!
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteAlso the S&P was at a low point on 1/1/88, so the index he's comparing to was moving into a major bull market. If the analysis started in 1/1/2000 it would be a completely different result...but that wouldn't fit his narrative.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Oh gosh, I'm shock!
I just found learned that the housing index in Manhattan was at a peak of 100 in 1988, then dropped by 27% over the next 6 years. The index did not again hit 100 until 2002...............14 years after Forkies random year of 1988.
Okay Forkie, how about you repeat your calculations, except this time begin in 1998?
In 2000, Trump claimed his net worth was $5 billion. In 2016, Forbes says he is worth $4 billion.
I think he would have done better to invest in Blockbuster Video. Can't you just smell the great business acumen?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-files-personal-financial-disclosure-statement-with-federal
So using your methodology, his net worth increased by 100% during a period when the S&P 500 increased by 30%. What a truly remarkable businessman.
If Forbes is accurate, than Trump is a loser businessman.
Can we all agree on that?
Quote
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteDamn, I wish I could take credit for coming up with this trap, but alanleroy, you kind of sprung it on yourself.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteI think we can all agree that a person who readily accepts a candidate's wealth claim from the year 2000 (when it suits his purposes) and rejects the same person's claim from 2015 (when it doesn't suit his purposes) is simply cherry picking statistics to fit his own agenda....Just like the original AP story. That was my point all along. Thank you for proving it for me.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteIf Forbes mis-estimated Donald Trump's worth by 250%, then Trump is a great businessman.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteWell if you accept his 2000 claim of a $5 billon net worth then you'd be a hypocrite to not accept his 2015 claim of a 10+ billion net worth.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteYou want to compare it with 2000? Cool!
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteAlso the S&P was at a low point on 1/1/88, so the index he's comparing to was moving into a major bull market. If the analysis started in 1/1/2000 it would be a completely different result...but that wouldn't fit his narrative.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Oh gosh, I'm shock!
I just found learned that the housing index in Manhattan was at a peak of 100 in 1988, then dropped by 27% over the next 6 years. The index did not again hit 100 until 2002...............14 years after Forkies random year of 1988.
Okay Forkie, how about you repeat your calculations, except this time begin in 1998?
In 2000, Trump claimed his net worth was $5 billion. In 2016, Forbes says he is worth $4 billion.
I think he would have done better to invest in Blockbuster Video. Can't you just smell the great business acumen?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-files-personal-financial-disclosure-statement-with-federal
So using your methodology, his net worth increased by 100% during a period when the S&P 500 increased by 30%. What a truly remarkable businessman.
If Forbes is accurate, than Trump is a loser businessman.
Can we all agree on that?
Based on published figures from Forbes and Trump himself, either:
A. Trump has lied outrageously about his wealth, OR
B. Trump is a loser businessman, OR
C. Forbes lies, and Donald Trump tells the truth.
Of course I'm leaning toward "B," but "A" could be reasonable choice. What's your pick, alanleroy?
QuoteNo and no. And my "entire hypothesis" is based on the articles from AP and Fortune. You brought up the year 2000, at which point I figured I'd bring up Trump's wealth claim for that year.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuote
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteDamn, I wish I could take credit for coming up with this trap, but alanleroy, you kind of sprung it on yourself.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteI think we can all agree that a person who readily accepts a candidate's wealth claim from the year 2000 (when it suits his purposes) and rejects the same person's claim from 2015 (when it doesn't suit his purposes) is simply cherry picking statistics to fit his own agenda....Just like the original AP story. That was my point all along. Thank you for proving it for me.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteIf Forbes mis-estimated Donald Trump's worth by 250%, then Trump is a great businessman.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteWell if you accept his 2000 claim of a $5 billon net worth then you'd be a hypocrite to not accept his 2015 claim of a 10+ billion net worth.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteYou want to compare it with 2000? Cool!
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteAlso the S&P was at a low point on 1/1/88, so the index he's comparing to was moving into a major bull market. If the analysis started in 1/1/2000 it would be a completely different result...but that wouldn't fit his narrative.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Oh gosh, I'm shock!
I just found learned that the housing index in Manhattan was at a peak of 100 in 1988, then dropped by 27% over the next 6 years. The index did not again hit 100 until 2002...............14 years after Forkies random year of 1988.
Okay Forkie, how about you repeat your calculations, except this time begin in 1998?
In 2000, Trump claimed his net worth was $5 billion. In 2016, Forbes says he is worth $4 billion.
I think he would have done better to invest in Blockbuster Video. Can't you just smell the great business acumen?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-files-personal-financial-disclosure-statement-with-federal
So using your methodology, his net worth increased by 100% during a period when the S&P 500 increased by 30%. What a truly remarkable businessman.
If Forbes is accurate, than Trump is a loser businessman.
Can we all agree on that?
Based on published figures from Forbes and Trump himself, either:
A. Trump has lied outrageously about his wealth, OR
B. Trump is a loser businessman, OR
C. Forbes lies, and Donald Trump tells the truth.
Of course I'm leaning toward "B," but "A" could be reasonable choice. What's your pick, alanleroy?
Oh boy. More false dilemma from Forkush. If you believed Trump in 2000 why wouldn't you use his 2015 claim to be consistent in your analysis? If you didn't believe Trump's in 2000 then your entire hypothesis is completely worthless anyway.
So which is it?
1. Did you believe Trump in 2000 and you compared it to Forbes in 2015 because you were only interested in smearing Trump and not the truth?
2. Did you not believe Trump in 2000 and you used it anyway because you were only interested in smearing Trump and not the truth?...
QuoteDon't worry. You aren't.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Forkie is absolutely right. I hang with Dom because I feel superior...
QuoteThose are most certainly not the only possible choices. Could it possibly be that Trump really knows the value of his assets and Forbes can only guess? Can it be that Forbes has not included all of Trump's assets or is placing incorrect values on them? How are they valuing his property....exactly? What did they include? Do they have access to his private financials?
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteNo and no. And my "entire hypothesis" is based on the articles from AP and Fortune. You brought up the year 2000, at which point I figured I'd bring up Trump's wealth claim for that year.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuote
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteDamn, I wish I could take credit for coming up with this trap, but alanleroy, you kind of sprung it on yourself.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteI think we can all agree that a person who readily accepts a candidate's wealth claim from the year 2000 (when it suits his purposes) and rejects the same person's claim from 2015 (when it doesn't suit his purposes) is simply cherry picking statistics to fit his own agenda....Just like the original AP story. That was my point all along. Thank you for proving it for me.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteIf Forbes mis-estimated Donald Trump's worth by 250%, then Trump is a great businessman.
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteWell if you accept his 2000 claim of a $5 billon net worth then you'd be a hypocrite to not accept his 2015 claim of a 10+ billion net worth.
Originally posted by: forkushVQuoteYou want to compare it with 2000? Cool!
Originally posted by: alanleroyIIQuoteAlso the S&P was at a low point on 1/1/88, so the index he's comparing to was moving into a major bull market. If the analysis started in 1/1/2000 it would be a completely different result...but that wouldn't fit his narrative.
Originally posted by: Boilerman
Oh gosh, I'm shock!
I just found learned that the housing index in Manhattan was at a peak of 100 in 1988, then dropped by 27% over the next 6 years. The index did not again hit 100 until 2002...............14 years after Forkies random year of 1988.
Okay Forkie, how about you repeat your calculations, except this time begin in 1998?
In 2000, Trump claimed his net worth was $5 billion. In 2016, Forbes says he is worth $4 billion.
I think he would have done better to invest in Blockbuster Video. Can't you just smell the great business acumen?
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-files-personal-financial-disclosure-statement-with-federal
So using your methodology, his net worth increased by 100% during a period when the S&P 500 increased by 30%. What a truly remarkable businessman.
If Forbes is accurate, than Trump is a loser businessman.
Can we all agree on that?
Based on published figures from Forbes and Trump himself, either:
A. Trump has lied outrageously about his wealth, OR
B. Trump is a loser businessman, OR
C. Forbes lies, and Donald Trump tells the truth.
Of course I'm leaning toward "B," but "A" could be reasonable choice. What's your pick, alanleroy?
Oh boy. More false dilemma from Forkush. If you believed Trump in 2000 why wouldn't you use his 2015 claim to be consistent in your analysis? If you didn't believe Trump's in 2000 then your entire hypothesis is completely worthless anyway.
So which is it?
1. Did you believe Trump in 2000 and you compared it to Forbes in 2015 because you were only interested in smearing Trump and not the truth?
2. Did you not believe Trump in 2000 and you used it anyway because you were only interested in smearing Trump and not the truth?...
Now alanleroy you have to admit that Trump is a failed businessman, OR that he is a liar on the subject, OR that Trump tells the truth while Forbes lies. Those are the only possible choices. I won' hold my breath for an answer though.
